well, all I can say, I'm in to auto racing as all of you who know me which is almost no one on here know, and I hear all the time, I'm going to this track where you're treated right, I'm going this route because there's no favoritism, and tons of stuff and you know what? they do change, and they usually come right back because it's as bad as the home track if not worse in most instances you just don't see it until you get there. It's the same with software, change brands, go right ahead, but I'm sure they all have their problems like anything else. Me, I don't see 1/4 of the problems some people on this list seem to. The only one that annoys me is the spell check in OE which has been messed up since 5.1 but I'm not running crying to windoe eyes because of that because I'm sure I could find something that annoys me just as much if not worse with that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:04 AM Subject: Re: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted I may catch hell for this... but I don't have as many problems with Jaws as the rest of you seem to. Granted, part of it may be that most of the software I use isn't Jaws friendly anyway so I don't even try it. But for the ten or so apps I do use with Jaws I don't have many issues. As for their support... I've gotten used to it with software companies after so long as a Novell installer and network admin. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:58 AM Subject: RE: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted > Well me I am just fed up with fs windows and the hole setup I am going > to linux as soon as I learn it. Hth=20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Chris Skarstad > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:27 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted > > > Hi > > when you say, "full issue" I am guessing you mean, a full version, not a > > patch. This is correct. However, if you are an msn messenger user, stay=20 > away from 6.1. I am also becoming increasingly disgusted with FS and > their=20 > lack of interest in fixing their software. They now say they will fix > MSN=20 > 6.2 and 7.0 in the next version of JAWS, which will be 7.0, tentatively=20 > scheduled to be released this summer if all goes well. This is > absolutely=20 > unacceptable! Why release a product that breaks a widely used > application,=20 > to add a few feature that maybe, oh I dunno about 2 other people are > gonna=20 > use? I mean really, does anyone actually think they're going to use all=20 > these stupid features they're adding now? Nobody but the developers > really=20 > use these features, and they're really losing touch. It's like I've > always=20 > said. FS works on a schedule. Even if the program is buggy, oh well it's > > the date we said we'd release it, so here you go, it's got more bugs > than a=20 > summer camp in August, but here ya go. > and when we report bugs, they say deal with it! If they keep this > crap=20 > up, I think we'll see a lot of people switching to another=20 > screenreader from a company that actually gives half a crap about its=20 > customers. I'm no huge fan of Window-eyes, but I am really beginning to > see=20 > why the faithful fans of it think the way they do. > > > > > > > > At 08:21 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote: >>If you are talking about Jaws it's over 40MB so it's a full issue I=20 >>think. >> >>Gene >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Marsha Anderson" <marcatony@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:06 PM >>Subject: Re: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted >> >> >> > Hi >> > Is this a full issue? >> > >> > Marsha Anderson >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:52 PM >> > Subject: Re: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted >> > >> > >> >> Just installed it and it seems fine. However, if you are a MSN user > >> >> there seems to be problems between the new 7.0 and Jaws. >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx> >> >> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:23 PM >> >> Subject: Fw: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Eric Damery" <EricD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> To: <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:12 PM >> >>> Subject: JAWS 6.1 Update is Posted >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> All, >> >>> JAWS 6.1 free update for JAWS 6.0 customers is now posted to the=20 >> >>> Freedom Scientific site. You can view the What's New and download=20 >> >>> now if you'd like. >> >>> >> >>> Note that we are not building Unicode versions of JAWS so if you=20 >> >>> are still using Me, 98, or 95, be certain to download the proper=20 >> >>> build. This is not an >> >>> SMA release so it will not be sent on CD unless you call and order > the >> >>> CD >> >>> for $10. There are also new DAISY recording for the new features >> >>> available >> >>> on the Training pages. You can install these to the Training\enu >> >>> folder and >> >>> listen to them on the updated FS Reader Demo that comes with JAWS > 6.1 >> >>> also. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Eric Damery >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To=20 >> >>> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=20 >> >>> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > >> >>> line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw >> >>> >> >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the=20 >> >>> list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the=20 >> >>> list. 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