Funny, I thought they were pretty good. I doubt I would have ever figured out how to move about in either access or Excel on my own. They do not teach you all about things like normalizing data or SQL that is not their purpose. They do tell you how to access aspects of the software without a mouse though. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario dleavens@xxxxxxx Home of the Polar Bear Express! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles McLennan" <cmclennan@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Iowa department for the blind tutorials Jason, Don't waste your money on either the Excel or Access ones! I got them a couple of years ago for a class that teaches Word, Excel, = Access, and PowerPoint. They were completely useless because all they = cover is basic navigation of these programs. My class went over all kinds of setting up and creating of spreadsheets = and databases, so I ended up having a horrific time in class after using = those tapes! Chuck cmclennan@xxxxxxxxxx To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.