Jason, Don't waste your money on either the Excel or Access ones! I got them a couple of years ago for a class that teaches Word, Excel, = Access, and PowerPoint. They were completely useless because all they = cover is basic navigation of these programs. My class went over all kinds of setting up and creating of spreadsheets = and databases, so I ended up having a horrific time in class after using = those tapes! Chuck cmclennan@xxxxxxxxxx To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.