Re: Error when trying to update

  • From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:28:29 -0600

Honestly, it's a matter of context.  IN this case, I should think, the 
context is aabundantly lear; we're talking here about JAWS, (a software 
program used by blind people).  Okay.

1.  A candidate release is the final beta prior to the actual final release 
of a version of a program.  In this case, the last public beta of JAWS was 
the candidate release version.  This means that for all intents and 
purposes, this is the final release of JAWS pending some minor fine  tuning.

2.  Updating?  I should think that's quite obvious, given the context in 
which the expression is used.  In this sense, to update means to apply the 
latest available version of something; (IE the latest version of JAWS).

HTH.

Sincerely,
The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Error when trying to update


Robert,

You mean the public release is called a "candidate?" In what sense is it
construed to be a candidate, in the origin of the expression? A candidate
for what? I'm not joking or being sarcastic. I'm just asking a linguistic
question, and I hope you're as curious a person as I am about language. If
you don't know, I hope someone else might have an idea. This kined of thing
is interesting. I'd never have inferred what you say it is, because I'd
expect a context in which we knew there was to be some sort of comparison or
contest in which one thing could win while the others lost. The word has to
emerge from somewhere, and this normal meaning may be a clue to where the
expression comes from in the tech lingo.

I also need to ask again, more specifically, because it must not sound
unusual to you. But what does it mean to "update to" something. Is that, for
instance, a shorthand tech way of send an update command to something? Or is
it in fact a gratuitous extra word so that the normal expression, where we
simply say I updated my wardrobe, FS updated the current release of Jaws,
and so forth, become "update to," somehow? again, I'm not being facetious.
This usage isn't normally literate, and you wouldn't see it in most other
communication, journalism or other responsible writing. Although I have to
guess you can hear it in tech circles and read it written in tech writing?

Thanks again.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert McCoy" <rmccoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: Error when trying to update


The final release, or the public release, not a beta.


Robert McCoy
(506) 459-6636
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:39 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Error when trying to update

Hi Robert,

I can see you're technically sophisticated, and I'm certainly not
complaining. But would you mind translating into regular English what you
mean when you talk about "updating to the release candidate?" I'd love to
understand how you'd say that if you didn't know those expressions. I don't
mean the individual words. I know the words themselves. I'm sure there's
some grammar missing, as there usually is with tech talk, so it makes it all

the more baffling to me. I'm sure it's not much more esoteric than the
techhy way of calling one's email program a "client," the kind of thing even

New York Times tech columnist David Pogue complains about. Anyway, I'm not
being partisan. if that kind of diction is cool in tech circles, fine by me.

But how do you say it in a regular way, sort of?

thanks.
From: "Robert McCoy" <rmccoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:22 PM
Subject: Error when trying to update


Each time I try to update to the release candidate of JAWS 10 I get an error
824, sub 0



I first tried the update feature then uninstalled and downloaded the full
version and tried to install, same results.

I have e-mailed JFW.



Any suggestions?



Robert McCoy

(506) 459-6636

volunteer, your community needs you




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