Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab

Well, that control shift x was something someone here on the list provided 
information on how to set up, and it's nice and convenient. As for the 
Windows key assignment program, that sounds nice. Personally, I do have a 
normal hotkey for launching Outlook Express, just an ordinary control shift 
plus a letter key. No hassle. But I'm sure it's nice to have an alternative 
way to set up different sorts of hotkeys, too.
what was that you said about a Jaws list of running apps? Is that the Jaws 
key plus one of the F keys? Or...?

thanks.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Hi this must be a local short cut on your own personal system as I can not
reproduce the function you describe.  And I agree yardbird there are many
way to do things and talking about them here or on other lists of this
nature helps we jaws and blind users become power users who can get jobs
done just as quickly as our sighted pairs.
With that goal in mind I must call to your attention a program call winkey.
It can be found at the jfw lite web site http://www.jfwlite.com/programs
What this feature does is allows you to use the win key as a prefix key to
assign windows commands or programs to the window key pluss letter combo.
An example I set windows key o for ms outlook xp and never have to go run
the program short cut again.
Very nice way to get things done.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:27 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Allen,
I completely agree with you. the most important thing in using a computer in

today's world is to know you have freedom to do things in many ways, and
only an enemy would hate such freedoms,. So let us remember that there are a

million ways to get things done in Windows, and return to Jaws,where,
thankfully, there are fewer ways to do stuff. Personally, I open Windows
Explorer by pressing control shift x, and it opens right on local drive c:,
with the drive already open! So there we have three methods, already, and
let us be thankful for such plentitude.

All best,

yardbird, sometimes called yard Bird, as if he was from a family named Bird
and his first name was yard. Which is fine. There's a million ways to be
called, I always say. Just so's you answer.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


hi friends, should we drop this topic? every computer user have their own
way to use the windows. some of you may like to use
WinKey+e for windows explorer but as for myself, i may prefered going
WinKey+the
manual way that is going through the my computer icon at
the desktop. so, i don't see any reason to make this thred any longer since
it is not jaws related also. sorry guys.

Warmest Regards,

Allan Wong
3M Technology

** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my
native, I'm sorry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 09:18
Subject: Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Well, look, as I said, I just can't do that very easily, plus I am not
having any big efficiency issue about the home row. I'm fine. But I'm really
glad you can do this. It's terrific.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby Jr." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Hi I use my thump to strike the windows key and my small finger to strike
the tab while all the rest of my fingers remain on home row.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeffrey Shockley
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:36 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Hi,
When I use the left Windows Key plus tab key combonation, I use my left
thumb to strike the Windows key, and the two fingers after my thumb to
strike the tab key. I hope this makes sense. Jeff

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The URL is
http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:26 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Hi Jeffrey,

Well, what you suggest sounds like another one of those instances in which
my only response its to ask how on earth a person's supposed to do that. You

mean with just your left hand? Somehow locate the left windows key with your

thumb or something, and hit the tab key with your little finger? That would
require eargue me to use my right hand to position my left hand before I
could do it. LOL. Seriously, though.

Lest I sound unadventurous, please consider that I'm accustomed to locating
the left windows key with my left index finger by finding the left control
key with it first and then sliding it one to the right, to the Windows key.
So that's what my fingers and hands are accustomed to doing. I just tried
using my left index on the Windows key and finding the Tab key with my
little finger. No way. Anyway, I'm perfectly happy with what I
discoveredisconcerted, as I have two hands. Although if I somehow lost my
right hand, I'm sure I'd retrain myself to do all this with my left. Just
strikes me oddly.

But let a hundred flowers bloom in the Windows courtyard, by all means. Oh,
I don't use Vista, so that's not a concern to me, but thanks for mentioning
it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 3:45 PM
Subject: RE: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


Hi,
You can also use the left Windows Key. However, I don't know how well this
works with Windows Vista due to the visual changes and Windows 3d flip. I
did this once on my brother's mew Vista machine, and it didn't put you right
on the task bar. HTH, Jeff

Check out my blog!
The URL is
http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:33 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: A convenient alternative to Alt Tab


I just accidentally discovered a very convenient Windows keyboard way to
circulate among your running applications besides Alt-tabbing from one to
the other. Not that I mind doing that so terribly, but this is pretty slick:

Just press Windows key plus tab. That's the right Windows key, of course.
What this does is land you immediately in your task bar, which is where a
sighted user would be clicking on the icons that represent open
applications.

Now, I know I can get to the Task Bar by going to the Desktop with Windows M

or Windows D, and then tabbing around from Desktop to start menu to system
tray and so forth until I land in the Task Bar. But when I thought that was
my only alternative to repeatedly pressing alt tab, I passed on it.

But with this, you just press right Windows key plus tab, and you're on the
first icon in your Task Bar representing one of your open apps. From there,
if you don't want to click on and restore that one, you just go back and
forth with your arrow keys until you find the icon you do want to restore,
and there you go.

I know, this is 1. off topic, except that you wouldn't have to explore and
discover such things if you didn't use a screen reader, of course and, 2.
everybody probably knows it, already, and my blundering into it when I'd
meant to press alt tab makes me the last one to know.

In any case, if this is helpful to someone, great. Just sharing, as we say.

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