> I'm quite happy to talk about them with you, > probably on this list is > best. I've used IceWM and Window Maker themes in > the past, but we've > not even started on these for jewel yet. Okay well. Using the shape extension seems easy enough. I've managed to work up a small app which creates a window inside it and then creates some decorations and shapes them. Screenshot -> http://http://dailyrant.org/files/pixmap.png Look in the top left corner for picture of what it does. What I'd like to discuss and hopefully come to an understanding is how to do this in a generic way to facilitate different themes without a need to change any code. My code is on the same website here is a link: http://www.dailyrant.org/files/pixmap.tar.gz The code is small, pretty easy to read and should be easy to hack if you have time. What I'd like to do is come up with a really good way to do arbitrary themes without breaking the code. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com