[jawsscripts] Re: new member
- From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:58:27 -0800
I think it may also be that I came from a serious computer programming
background and learned all the usual programming items -- variables,
control flow etc -- there. In fact I have done very little in the way
of jaws scripting as most of the programs I use work well enough
without it.
Honestly, I don't think the jaws script language is a particularly
good environment for learning those things from scratch unless you
already have a concrete task in min. The main reason I say that is
how poorly the environment provides feedback on errors. Sure, if you
are used to the sorts of programming errors that are typically made it
is generally enough but it sure isn't a friendly environment for
someone with no other exposure to programming concepts. And it is
tied strongly enough to responding to events that it isn't a good
environment for sorts of programs that are the bread and butter of
introductory courses.
On 6/23/12, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Soronel, believe me--I think scripting is an absolute last resort for
> anything. I've been doing it now for 17 years--& my mantra is don't
> script unless u absolutely must. You're basically fitting round pegs
> into square holes (or vice versa), & there's always consequences to
> that.
>
> I've taught a lot of folks scripting over the years, & my experience
> is that too many folks try to skip the basics & dive right into their
> project, which, as u well know, always results in failure. A house
> built on sand, as it were.
>
> I don't really think we disagree here, necessarily, though perhaps our
> methodologies differ.
>
> On 6/23/12, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Jackie,
>>
>> I just think that unless there is something jaws doesn't do that you
>> want it to, in some program that there are far better uses of time
>> than to learn jaws scripting. And that without some goal in mind a
>> beginner is likely to just flounder around even more than they are
>> already going to.
>>
>> On 6/23/12, Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Well, Kimsan, no1's born w/the ability to script jaws lol.
>>>
>>> Sometimes having something in mind is ok, but I find in those cases
>>> that:
>>> a) the project is far too large for a beginner;
>>> b) Folks try to absorb stuff as much & as fast as they can; which
>>> c) Leads to overwhelm & failure to learn.
>>>
>>> On 6/23/12, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Don't think you need a special skill set, other
>>>> than the determination to learn something new.
>>>> Read, focus, apply yourself. That's it.
>>>> As for what to start with, go to Start Menu >
>>>> Jaws > Explore Jaws > and hit ENTER on Explore
>>>> the manuals. In the folder which opens, check
>>>> out "Basics of Scripting". Don't just read it; do
>>>> the exercises as well!
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> At 04:05 AM 6/23/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>Hello:
>>>>>If one wants to jump into jaws scripting what
>>>>>advice would you provide? What
>>>>>type of background would one need in order to
>>>>>successfully do such a thing?
>>>>>Or is it one of those things that with jaws
>>>>>scripting, you have it or you
>>>>>don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Where would be a good place to begin.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Blame the computer--why not? It can't defend itself & occasionally
> might even be the culprit
> Jackie McBride
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> Jaws Scripting training materials: www.screenreaderscripting.com
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