[jawsscripts] Re: [Bulk] Re: Need your advice on a JAWS scripting challenge
- From: "Kamil" <ca.kamilimak@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:50:26 -0400
Hi Soronel,
Thanks a lot for responding to my question.
I understand what you are saying.
Other than the standard window objects, there is a child object (the forth
one), whose role is client and has a name the same as the foreground window
title.
Every other object is a descendant of that.
Cheers,
Kamil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:16 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [jawsscripts] Re: Need your advice on a JAWS scripting
challenge
> If you are seeing 7 children I would expect that you are seeing just
> the standard window response to an accessibility query (things like
> the title bar, min/max/close buttons) etc and not anything from the
> application itself.
>
> Using acc explorer does the program actually return anything that is
> specific to the application and not just the standard accessibility
> elements?
>
> On 3/22/12, Travis Roth <travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> This sounds very complex. I wonder how Inspect is able to enumerate the
>> objects when acNavigate doesn't work?
>>
>> I was wondering if it would be possible to build your own searching
>> function
>> that would approach the screen via a grid-like pattern, and use one of
>> the
>> location based functions such as GetObjectAtPoint() to build an array of
>> objects?
>> If you either know how many objects you're seeking, or which ones you
>> could
>> compare the objects found against a master list to know when you have had
>> enough, or exhausted the grid, whichever comes first.
>>
>> It may be possible to expediate the search by looking at the location
>> data
>> of the object that is found and moving to the right, etc., if all objects
>> you need are visible and the MSAA location data is available and
>> accurate. A
>> lot of questions there but without accNavigate I am not sure of how else
>> to
>> find the objects...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kamil
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:18 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Need your advice on a JAWS scripting challenge
>>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for responding to my question so quickly.
>>
>> accChildCount reports 7 children, but accChild(1) to 7 returns null, and
>> accName(1) to 7 returns blank. AccExplorer shows 7 child objects. The
>> forth
>> object has a non-blank name.
>>
>> This seems to mean that neither child objects could be retrieved nor
>> their
>> accName.
>>
>> I tried GetObjectInfoByName function. It can retrieve the value and other
>> info but doesn't give me the actual object. I need the object to call the
>> accDoDefaultAction method.
>>
>> Is GetObjectInfoByName the function you were referring to as "JAWS
>> functions
>> for enumerating object properties"?
>>
>> Many of these objects are not focusable by tab key, and their pixel
>> location
>> are not fixed. Therefore, I can not use the other object related
>> functions.
>>
>> Please confirm whether I understood your reply accurately or not.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Kamil
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:43 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Need your advice on a JAWS scripting challenge
>>
>>
>>> JAWS, 13 or older, does not provide access to AccessibleChildren() per
>>> se. You may be able to get what you want using .accChildCount and
>>> childIDs; e.g., o.accName(3) for the name of the third object. Also
>>> worth a try is something like o.accChild(3) for the third full object.
>>> Finally, the JAWS functions for enumerating object properties into
>>> text strings might be useful, if tedious and/or slow depending on your
>>> needs.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:28:40PM -0400, Kamil wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm dealing with a windows-based application which its whole user
>>> interface
>>> is one window (hwnd). It's exposing its controls through MSAA as
>>> objects.
>>>
>>> The challenge it that even though controls are exposed as MSAA objects,
>>> the
>>> object navigation method (accNavigate) has not been implemented at all.
>>> This
>>> prevents me from scraping controls starting from the main and only
>>> window
>>> handle.
>>>
>>> Windows API (oleacc.dll), has an "AccessibleChildren" function which
>>> enumerates all children of an object and returns an object array. I'm
>>> wondering if JAWS 13 provides access to this function.
>>>
>>> I'm also open to any other solution to the above challenge.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kamil
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