[jaws-uk] Re: Word
- From: "Graham smith" <graham.smith577@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:40:00 -0000
Hi Will
Tried your suggestions today.
Changing the Zoom to whole page solved my problem within Word. I tried all
other options within Zoom but the whole page option was the only one that
worked.
However I still have the same problem within a Government based program.
This is a program that uses Word for certain things, when I enter word from
within this program I sil have the same problem and altering options in Zoom
have no effect. That is that I cannot navigate along a line of text by
individual characters, I can read by line or by word but not by character.
Pressing num pad 5 3 times quickly will enable me to hear each characters
code number, but this is not a lot of help.
I am managing just about, there must be some sort of confliction with jaws
and the other program because other odditities keep occuring. .
It is very difficult to explain them when you are not sure what has happened
and what is happening.
Thanks
Regards
Graham
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Will Pearson
Sent: 11 December 2004 20:38
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
Hi Graham,
I think, that the SayCharacter script function, called when you press 5 on
the numeric key pad, isn't picking the correct character from the off screen
model. Everything seems to be there in the OSM, as SayLine is working, but
I suspect that JAWS has a problem tracking the cursor for right aligned text
under Word 2003. Hence, it's generating this problem.
You could try any of the following to see if that corrects the issue:
1) Maximise the Word application main window, by pressing alt + space and
selecting maximise
2) Changing to normal view from within Word's view menu 3. Changing the zoom
scale from Word's view menu
4) Changing the font and font size used in the Word document.
These are known to resolve some off screen model problems. If they don't
work, this will need to be sorted out by the system side devs at FS.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham smith" <graham.smith577@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
> Hi George
>
> Yes I have mentioned it to both Dennis and tristran.
>
> Just wondered if anybody else could throw any light on it.
>
> George, when I open a message from the new list I get the word "Bounce" in
> the from line, is that normal.
>
> Graham
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of George Bell
> Sent: 11 December 2004 18:17
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
>
> Hi Graham,
>
> This sounds very much like the kind of problem someone from Freedom
> Scientific should perhaps be looking at more closely with you.
> [Tristram -
> I hope your reading this, and will follow up!]
>
> From what you describe, the problem can be clearly and easily replicated.
> THAT is the kind of problem which programmers generally are able to fix.
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham smith
> Sent: 11 December 2004 14:57
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
>
> Hi
>
> Well, I think this is a problem that cannot be solved, nobody seems to
> know
> what is causing it.
>
> I have had the problem with 4.5, 5 and 5.1.
>
> I really don't know what is causing this, everything is working fine and
> then for some reason jaws seems to switch into a different
> mode, whether
> it is a particular keystroke that I am using I don't know.
>
> My latest problem is this.
>
> I use a simple template that I use to create documents.
>
> Its something like this, A date at the top, 7 lines down I have the word
> Name typed in. A couple of lines down on the right hand side is a
> telephone
> number a couple of lines below that in the same position is our reference
> number and two lines below that same line position is typed your Ref.
> Several lines below that back on the left hand margin is the word Dear, I
> hope you get the idea.
>
> Ok I open the template and arrow down until Jaws announces Name, pressing
> Num Pad 5 announces the letter N. I simply then type in the name and
> address here and delete the word Name.
>
> I now arrow down until I hear one of the next items on the right hand
> side,
> say for instance your Ref, Pressing num pad
> 5 announces Y and I can move along the word hearing each individual
> letter.
> I simply type in the reference number and delete the words Your Ref. All
> very simple crude stuff.
>
> However since the latest version of Jaws 5 things work differently
> concerning anything that is not on the left hand margin.
>
> Using the same template I arrow down to Name and this is ok but when I
> arrow
> down to your Ref Jaws announces the words but when I press num pad 5 jaws
> says blank and whatever I do I cannot find these words, jaws just keeps
> announcing blank, however , pressing the say line command announces the
> words.
> I have now got to know that when I initially move down to the word your
> ref
> the cursor is on the letter Y and it is ok to type in here. I have found
> out that if I press num pad 5 twice quickly to announce Yankee I can now
> move along the word with the likes of Oscar, uniform etc. So it appears
> jaws is not recognising the letters but is recognising them when num pad 5
> twice mode is switched on.
>
> I have had a similar problem working in word within another program, much
> the same as above but to find out where I an on the line I have to press
> num
> pad 5 three times and then jaws will announce the character number for
> each
> letter but will not announce the letter itself or the Oscar, uniform etc
> node.
>
> I hope some of this makes sense, I could go on but I wont for now.
>
> Regards
>
> Graham
> .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mandy Palmer
> Sent: 11 December 2004 14:04
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
>
> Hi there Graham
>
> I have had the same problem, I've tried screen refresh and it sometimes
> put
> the words back but I also use my margin location quite a lot with my work.
> I find if you type the first page, it says you are 1.27cm in from the
> edge,
> because I use a hanging indent but as soon as you go over to page 2 it
> says
> 0, as you say wherever you are in the page. I have spoken to FS and they
> say they can't see the problem. I know there is one because it didn't
> happen with 5, only with 5.1
>
> Mandy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Graham smith
> Sent: 11 December 2004 12:57
> To: jaws Group
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Word
>
>
> Trying againHi
>
> Is anyone else experiencing navigation problems in word with the latest
> version of Jaws.
>
> I get in situations where I can read the line but I cannot navigate it by
> character or word, jaws just announces blank although I know I am on a
> letter.
>
> I also get in a situation where when presseing Alt delete to find out
> where
> I am on the line it announces 0cm from left and 0 cm from top this is
> announced wherever I am on the line.
>
> Graham
>
>
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