[jaws-uk] Re: Word
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:16:30 -0000
Hi Graham,
This sounds very much like the kind of problem someone from
Freedom Scientific should perhaps be looking at more closely
with you. [Tristram - I hope your reading this, and will
follow up!]
From what you describe, the problem can be clearly and
easily replicated. THAT is the kind of problem which
programmers generally are able to fix.
George.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham
smith
Sent: 11 December 2004 14:57
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
Hi
Well, I think this is a problem that cannot be solved,
nobody seems to know what is causing it.
I have had the problem with 4.5, 5 and 5.1.
I really don't know what is causing this, everything is
working fine and
then for some reason jaws seems to switch into a different
mode, whether
it is a particular keystroke that I am using I don't know.
My latest problem is this.
I use a simple template that I use to create documents.
Its something like this, A date at the top, 7 lines down I
have the word Name typed in. A couple of lines down on the
right hand side is a telephone number a couple of lines
below that in the same position is our reference number and
two lines below that same line position is typed your Ref.
Several lines below that back on the left hand margin is the
word Dear, I hope you get the idea.
Ok I open the template and arrow down until Jaws announces
Name, pressing Num Pad 5 announces the letter N. I simply
then type in the name and address here and delete the word
Name.
I now arrow down until I hear one of the next items on the
right hand side, say for instance your Ref, Pressing num pad
5 announces Y and I can move along the word hearing each
individual letter. I simply type in the reference number and
delete the words Your Ref. All very simple crude stuff.
However since the latest version of Jaws 5 things work
differently concerning anything that is not on the left hand
margin.
Using the same template I arrow down to Name and this is ok
but when I arrow down to your Ref Jaws announces the words
but when I press num pad 5 jaws says blank and whatever I do
I cannot find these words, jaws just keeps announcing blank,
however , pressing the say line command announces the words.
I have now got to know that when I initially move down to
the word your ref the cursor is on the letter Y and it is ok
to type in here. I have found out that if I press num pad 5
twice quickly to announce Yankee I can now move along the
word with the likes of Oscar, uniform etc. So it appears
jaws is not recognising the letters but is recognising them
when num pad 5 twice mode is switched on.
I have had a similar problem working in word within another
program, much the same as above but to find out where I an
on the line I have to press num pad 5 three times and then
jaws will announce the character number for each letter but
will not announce the letter itself or the Oscar, uniform
etc node.
I hope some of this makes sense, I could go on but I wont
for now.
Regards
Graham
.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mandy
Palmer
Sent: 11 December 2004 14:04
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Word
Hi there Graham
I have had the same problem, I've tried screen refresh and
it sometimes put the words back but I also use my margin
location quite a lot with my work.
I find if you type the first page, it says you are 1.27cm in
from the edge, because I use a hanging indent but as soon as
you go over to page 2 it says 0, as you say wherever you are
in the page. I have spoken to FS and they say they can't
see the problem. I know there is one because it didn't
happen with 5, only with 5.1
Mandy
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Graham
smith
Sent: 11 December 2004 12:57
To: jaws Group
Subject: [jaws-uk] Word
Trying againHi
Is anyone else experiencing navigation problems in word with
the latest version of Jaws.
I get in situations where I can read the line but I cannot
navigate it by character or word, jaws just announces blank
although I know I am on a letter.
I also get in a situation where when presseing Alt delete to
find out where I am on the line it announces 0cm from left
and 0 cm from top this is announced wherever I am on the
line.
Graham
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