Hi Catherine and everyone, I believe that FS made a careless - very careless - error, which they haven't yet rectified, and don't seem to want to, when they removed the Text Formatting option with JAWS5, which could have done just what you wanted when moving line by line or using cursor movement keys. This was very useful for proof-reading documents still under composition. It was available, through JAWS4.51, by: Configuration Manager; Set Options; Text Formatting Options (Alt-s, f). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Jaws-Uk" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Struggling to understand customisation in 7.0 Hello all, I've got a specific question here, and a general comment. My question is how do I get JAWS 7.0 to indicate capital letters by saying "Cap", in Microsoft Word, and to do so both when I am cursoring down line by line and across character by character? But not during Say All. Step by step instructions would be most appreciated. Now my general comment. I apologise if this has been gone through before but I've only just upgraded to 7.0 from 4.5. I don't want to start a long topic of moaning here, but I would appreciate people's views on what I am feeling. Am I alone in feeling that the array of customisations to do with how JAWS speaks formatting, punctuation etc is unnecessarily detailed and very confusing? I think I should be able to work out the answer to my above question by myself. But I can't. I've been using JAWS since 2001, and Windows since 1998. I consider I'm pretty good at working things out, and, if I can't work things out without doing so - reading help topics and following instructions. And I know products change over time and we have to do an amount of learning. But I think there's something wrong when an experienced user such as myself can't get JAWS to announce capitals in the way I want it to; and can't get a quick, understandable answer from the help topics. Does anyone else find this? If I am struggling, I am wondering how does a user new to JAWS manage? To a certain extent I guess my frustration is to do with the change from what I'm used to; and to the fact that, because I've grown used to e.g. capitals being announced in a certain way, I want it exactly the same. But I'm sure that's not all of it - apart from the quest to get the settings the same, I'm just generally quite baffled by the differet places/choices one goes to to make changes - verbosity; configuration manager; JAWS/options. This has always been the case to a certain extent but to me it seems worse now (unless I'm getting less patient with age). Some of it isn't logical to me - e.g. Why is something called x manager (Speech And Sounds Manager" not listed in "JAWS Manager" invoked by pressing ins F2? I found it in Configuration Manager...but hey, this doesn't make for a very usable structure to me. I have come to the point where I'll have to put in a lot of time to learn this product as well as I need to. I think this learning time could be dramatically reduced if the menus/managers were organised in a more logical way. And if they are to be like this, I'm thinking it would be good to have a wizard to step through the process of making customisations. Also what I find noteworthy is one of the reasons I chose JAWS in the first place over WE was the fact that I found JAWS's interface/customisations to be intuitive. I no longer find this to be the case. (I don't want to start a discussion about WE v JAWS, but I'm just interested to know whether anyone else finds/found this frustrating too). Catherine ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq