[jaws-uk] Re: Information please
- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:36:42 -0000
Hi Nigel;
I think that's something we all want. The lack of accessibility is partly
due to a lack of enthusiasm and understanding of the importance of
accessibility, but also a lack of knowledge on how to make things
accessible. It's the latter, where we as end users of access technology,
can help out. Most software goes through alpha and beta testing before it's
released, and if you can get on one of these programs, they're a great way
to educate developers about what's inaccessible with their programs.
If you're interested in becoming a private beta tester for Microsoft, you
can have a look at http://beta.microsoft.com. If you sign in using the
guest account, you'll get lots of information about becomming a beta tester
for Microsoft. This is a great way of getting accessibility information to
Microsoft, as even though they mostly want to incorperate accessibility into
their products, they sometimes don't know the best way of going about it.
However, the standard health warning applies, in that beta software is not
release quality software. You expect it to have bugs, and this is something
you have to be prepared to deal with, but if those bugs are accessibility
bugs, at least you have the opportunity to report them direct to Microsoft
and get them fixed.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 6:59 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Information please
> I was referring to my disappointment with the software industry and
> accessibility in General. Sorry if my comments are not very Christmassy I
> just wish things were more accessible to start with.
>
> Nigel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:59 PM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Information please
>
>
> > Nigel, Ahem. Did you perchance mean FS? After all, MSN messenger was
> > enabled to work with the help of JAWS scripts. It is, on this occasion,
> > FS that is appealing to your Reformed -Scrooge generosity to upgrade
> > JAWS if you want it to work with MSN6/7.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:26 PM
> > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Information please
> >
> >
> > You have to love MS don't you, upgrade upgrade upgrade. Sighted users
> > would
> > not put up with this broken software.
> >
> > BAH, Humbug!
> > Nigel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Alistair Kelly" <ally.kelly@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:59 PM
> > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Information please
> >
> >
> >> Hi Nigel,
> >>
> >> As a JFW 4.5.1. user I tried to see if the 7.0 beta of MSM would
> > have
> >> any functionality, silly me! The long and short of it is that when I
> > went
> >> to return to messenger 5 it would not allow me to sign in, I have
> > tried to
> >> do so a number of times following re-installition time after time. So
> > it
> >> appears that jfw 4.5.1 users who do try and change their messenger
> > version
> >> will end up like me using windows messenger. Unless of course some of
> > you
> >> know better! Compliments of the season to you and all!
> >>
> >> alistair
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:27 PM
> >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Information please
> >>
> >>
> >>>I think we'd all like to know how to access msn messenger.
> >>>
> >>> Nigel
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Roger Fordham" <Roger@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:50 PM
> >>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Information please
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi List,
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it easy to use msn messenger with Jaws 6? If so, I would be very
> >>>> grateful if someone could instruct me off-list as to the stpes I
> > need to
> >>>> take to wet it up.
> >>>>
> >>>> With thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
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