[isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
- From: "Paul Laudenslager" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:12:33 -0400
Most of my older servers are 32 bit and I've been slowly migrating over to
Virtual Server on 64-bit machines.
However, it seems that all of the 64 bit machines I've purchased have been
one generation too old to run Hyper-V. Right now, I'm stuck with VS. I
makes me what to go buy one of those 'bad boy' servers - quad processor with
quad cores - but I was quoted $32k which is a bit over my current Ebay'ing
budget. J
Two things come to mind.
1. Is Hyper-V worth the additional costs and how does its
performance/security relate to Virtual Server?
2. Is it me or does there seem something inherently wrong with
virtualizing an ISA Server?
I do like the idea of disabling the NIC on the parent and still being able
to communicate on that NIC with HV. I can't wait to test that.
Thanks!
-Paul
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:02 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
Jim,
Then the KB Article 957006 is extremely misleading. :(
Here's an excerpt (in full) taken from the Introduction section.
This article discusses the support policy for running Microsoft server
software in the following supported virtualization environments:
* Windows Server 2008 with Hyper-V
* Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008
* Supported partners' virtualization software
For more information, click the following article number to view the article
in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
944987 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944987/) Support partners for
non-Microsoft hardware virtualization software
* Server Virtualization Validation Program (SVVP)
For more information, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp/
(http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp/)
In my interpreted version of this statement into layman terms, I read it as
saying all of the bulleted environments are supported; specifically, any
environment that is part of the Server Virtualization Validation Program.
If you visit that page, VMWare, Inc. is listed as a participating vendor.
If you then visit the Support link from that page, the first sentence
states, "Technical support will be available for customers running a Windows
Server operating system on a validated third-party hypervisor." Since ESX
Server is a hypervisor and participation implies (at this time, based on
language) validation, the support statement does appear to be transitive.
I could not find anything specifically stating that the applications
identified in the KB Article are only currently being supported in Hyper-V
virtualized environments.
If Microsoft is going to withhold support of the applications identified in
the KB Article on other vendor's virtualization environments, then some kind
of language should be used indicating that such support is pending [insert
qualifier].
Just my $0.02 worth.
On 8/26/08, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org
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That KB lists the products that are supported on Hypervisor.
Greg's questions was specific to VMWare ESX.
This will be a very sticky question and
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/897615/ provides the support limits.
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:46 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
Greg,
ISA Server is supported.
See the following KB Article for the full details on all supported
virtualized applications from Microsoft.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957006
On 8/26/08, Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org
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Jim and/or others
Is there an official standpoint from MS as to supported requirements
for ISA virtualised in production environments? (specifically ESX)
Cheers
Greg
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