RE: DNS pass through in VPN
- From: "John T \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:24:22 -0800
Don't go away mad...
Just go away!
Oh, BTW, your spelling disproved your claim.
John T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MJ [mailto:mjtech@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:53 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> All I can say is:
>
> Punch of idiots
>
> Therefore I am leaving this sick list because I am not an idiot and will
> never be
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taps [mailto:Taps@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:36 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Line 5 tells me this is an Authentication issue. Even when bypassing
> DNS by not going to \\ServerName\ShareExample and using the IP address
> it still asks him to autheticate. If he was logged into his computer as
> a domain user, whether it be via cached credentials or by choosing to
> login via dialup, it shoudln't ask him for this at all.
>
> I will assume that this is what is considered to be the "DNS Pass
> through" problem although it doesn't appear to be.
>
> As for the rest of his post.... There was no mention of any DNS issues
> except for the subject. But when compared to the details of the
> problem, the subject might as well stated "The muffler on my yugo smells
> like old cheese".
>
> --
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MJ [mailto:mjtech@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:21 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Why do you have shorten your favorite words (WTF), instead
> > type them as they are, and I promise you won't have any
> > problems because this the main problem of this list.
> >
> > 1. I have a Windows 2000 Server with ISA 2004 installed. I have.
> > 2. Setup VPN for outside clients. However when they connect to.
> > 3. The VPN, there are no longer able to access shared resources.
> > 4. On the domain. They are able to if you go START, RUN.
> > 5. \\192.168.X.X\ShareExample it prompts for the network.
> > 6. Password and then allows access. However if this drive was.
> >
> >
> > What does line 5 tell?
> >
> > Also if you're using logon scripts to map network drive, then
> > at the command prompt run net use and see what's mapped?
> >
> > Some times you find mapped drives without letters and those
> > need to be deleted for mapped network drives to work.
> >
> >
> > I am so sorry that you have to deal with your self for the
> > rest of you life :(
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:07 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > "All the nonsense answers?" WTF are you talking about?
> > Steve's one "rubbish" post? We're asking the guy how he
> > connects to the VPN.
> > The caveats of user context and logon method are absolutely
> > valid questions for the people who are trying to help to ask.
> >
> > You're the one who said it was a name resolution problem- I
> > think we should hear that from the OP, don't you? You may be
> > causing misinformation without knowing it.
> >
> > I'm sorry if this bores you, but we're still trying to find
> > out what the real problem is. If that is "high school" to
> > you, then I think that's something you have to deal with.
> > I'm just trying to help.
> > Regarding respect, I don't think it is appropriate for you to
> > bust on the questions I'm asking when I'm taking time out of
> > my Sunday to help other people, particularly in the absence
> > of any supportive posts from you.
> >
> > t
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2006, at 3:37 PM, MJ wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Who asked this question in the first place?
> > >
> > > Looks like he already gave it up on all of these nonsense answers.
> > >
> > > There is no way for any of us to tell what the problem is from the
> > > information provided, but we can point to reason that could
> > possibly
> > > cause such a problem.
> > >
> > > If we'll start repeating the same things over and over and
> > over then
> > > it needs to stop.
> > >
> > > Also we need some respect in this list. It's starting to feel like
> > > high school
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:30 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > This is a public list. We'll talk about whatever we choose to talk
> > > about. If you don't like it, then ignore them.
> > >
> > > I've read through the entire thread, and I don't see any
> > information
> > > at all back from the OP. Who knows what the problem is? THAT is
> > > THAT!
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > > On Mar 12, 2006, at 3:17 PM, MJ wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>
> > >> Can we please stop talking about this topic?
> > >>
> > >> There is a name resolution problem and a credentials problem.
> > >>
> > >> This is it.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:12 PM
> > >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>
> > >> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>
> > >> Correct - it is not the same. Setting application and such is
> > >> bypassed, as are "logon scripts," but it much faster and
> > provides the
> > >> same functions.
> > >>
> > >> Not that any of that matters here ;)
> > >>
> > >> t
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 12, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Jim Harrison wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>
> > >>> Absolutame'
> > >>> Still not the same as "logon via dial-up", tho...
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:11 PM
> > >>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >>> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>
> > >>> Right, but when you then connect up to the VPN, you're
> > authenticated
> > >>> as a domain user, and the pass-through creds access
> > domain resources
> > >>> as they normally would. Network services and machine context can
> > >>> also access the domain.
> > >>>
> > >>> t
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mar 12, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Jim Harrison wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They're not logging into the domain - they're logging onto the
> > >>>> local machine using the cached domain profile.
> > >>>> ..much different context.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Taps [mailto:Taps@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:23 PM
> > >>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Are you certain about this? I have remote users that log onto
> > >>>> their machines while disconnected from the VPN (Using cached
> > >>>> credentials of course), and then when they connect to
> > the VPN they
> > >>>> have full access to their shares. It doesn't run their login
> > >>>> scripts for them, but it does allow them access wihtout retyping
> > >>>> user info.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Taps@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>> http://Taps.Iniquity.Org
> > >>>> - "What spirit is so empty and blind, that it cannot
> > recognize the
> > >>>> fact that the foot is more noble than the shoe, and skin more
> > >>>> beautiful than the garment with which it is clothed?" --
> > >>>> Michaelangelo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a
> > man on fire,
> > >>>> and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. -- Terry Pratchett
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:17 PM
> > >>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Leonardo,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You must log on via dial-up networking if you want to
> > log into the
> > >>>>> domain. Works the same for all VPN clients.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> HTH,
> > >>>>> Tom
> > >>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > >>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/>
> > >>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP
> > >>>>> -- ISA Firewalls
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> From: Leonardo Lazcarez [mailto:LLazcare@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:00 PM
> > >>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >>>>> Subject: RE: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Joel,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You have to find a way to log onto the domain AFTER the VPN
> > >>>>> connection is established. That's why you can't see the network
> > >>>>> neighborhood.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cisco VPN clients have a setting that allows that.
> > I haven't
> > >>>>> tried it on Microsoft VPN clients and I'm not sure if it's even
> > >>>>> supported.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> From: Chris Patterson [mailto:cpatterson@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>>> Sent: Sun 3/12/2006 12:48 PM
> > >>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are the users using domain usernames before they connect to
> > >>>>> the VPN?
> > >>>>> Meaning are they logged into thei rlocal machine as
> > a domain
> > >>>>> user?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> And what does this have to do with DNS?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> How is the drive mapped? By IP/HostName/FQDN?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Chris Patterson
> > >>>>> Network Administrator
> > >>>>> Cpatterson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>> Http://Www.AxiomSys.Com
> > >>>>> - The Truth Is Out There... Go Find It ( Http://www.
> > >>>>> 2600.com )
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: Joel [mailto:jhansen1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:07 PM
> > >>>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > >>>>>> Subject: [isalist] DNS pass through in VPN
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have a Windows 2000 Server with ISA 2004 installed. I have
> > >>>>>> setup VPN for outside clients. However when they
> > connect to the
> > >>>>>> VPN, there are no longer able to access shared
> > resources on the
> > >>>>>> domain. They are able to if you go START, RUN,
> > >>>>>> \\192.168.X.X\ShareExample it prompts for the network password
> > >>>>>> and then allows access. However if this drive was mapped, it
> > >>>>>> would not allow you to access it. Any ideas?
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