I tried a few things but all in all unsuccessful, I zcopied copied the filled shape to board geometry and it did make the unfilled shape, but then when I zcopied back it made it filled again Seems since the layer you want it to be does allow filled, it just fills it again From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shaw, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:24 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Unfill shape How about z-copy to a temp layer that doesn't allow filled shapes, delete the original then z-copy it back. Long winded I know, but... Chris From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carrow, Dennis Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:01 AM To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Unfill shape Thanks Gary. Yes, that's what I found too. Thanks Dave. I tried to decompose the shape like you suggested and that was also unsuccessful... ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:39 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Unfill shape Hey Dennis, I don't think you can change the shape type (filled to unfilled) on a non-etch layer. When I select a non-etch shape, then RMB on it to Change Shape Type, I get the message in the command line "...Change shape type not allowed for non etch shapes". Basically, "Permission Denied"! It doesn't make sense, since you can create either a filled or unfilled shape on a non-etch layer. I'm afraid you might just have to recreate it as unfilled. Regards, Gary MacIndoe Senior PCB Layout Designer Contract - Kelly Services Covidien EbD R&D 5920 Longbow Drive Boulder, CO 80301 303.476.7458 www.covidien.com From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carrow, Dennis Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:10 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Unfill shape Good Day All, Simple question probably- how do you unfill a shape? I have a conversion that filled some PACKAGE GEOMETRY/ASSEMBLY TOP shapes and I'd prefer they not be. I'm using Allegro 16.3. Thanks! -DC