[PCB_FORUM] Re: Retaining nets on free-standing vias

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  • Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:52:33 -0600

All,

I called Cadence about that a long time ago and was told that is a
function/feature that many designers actually demanded. At first, it was
annoying but after awhile, I simply laid down my planes last. This is
where dynamic shapes are really handy. 


Cheers,

Ron Scott C.I.D.+
Texas Instruments
Storage Products Group
Tel:   214.567.4715
Cell:  972.816.7978
rg-scott@xxxxxx

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary MacIndoe
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Les,

I'm on 15.5, but I think it first appeared on 15.2.

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Advanced Micro Devices
Longmont, Colorado

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Les Wong
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:48 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Retaining nets on free-standing vias

Gary:
Is that Allegro 15.5 ?
Les

--- Gary MacIndoe <gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Hey guys/gals,
> 
> Cadence has addressed this issue, at least to an extent (when copying 
> vias).
> Go into Edit -> Copy, vias turned on, in the Options tab, then check 
> "Retain net of vias" box.  Then, you copy say a gnd via and drop it 
> down anywhere not on a trace, it retains the gnd net.  You can move it

> around all you want, it will still be gnd.
> 
> Gary E. MacIndoe
> PCB Design Engineer
> Advanced Micro Devices
> Longmont, Colorado
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Daniel So
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:05 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Retaining nets on free-standing vias
> 
> Linda
> 
> I tried going to www.cdnusers.org, registered and then logged on. I 
> went to Forums -> Silicon-package-board -> Shared code-Skill. There I 
> saw discussions but no skill codes. Where did I go wrong?
> 
> Daniel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:37 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Retaining nets on free-standing vias
> 
> Doug,
> 
> We have a PCB SKILL forum on the newly launched Cadence user community

> website where you can upload your skill routine for all to see.
> 
> you will need to register to post the code.
> 
> The site is found at www.cdnusers.org.  You can register, wait a bit 
> for your authorization code, login, then click on the "Forums" tab in 
> the upper navigation bar.
> 
> 
> Linda
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas 
> Stanley
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:32 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Retaining nets on free-standing vias
> 
> My method doesn't really solve the problem, but it makes it easy to 
> deal with. I wrote a small SKILL routine that allows you to select any

> via and change the via's net.
> 
> I works by clicking on a via (single select, window, or temp group) 
> and then clicking on any shape, pin, or cline. The via then takes on 
> the net of the shape/pin/cline you selected. Works like a champ. It's 
> 30 lines of code.
> 
> 
> 
> Douglas G. Stanley
> Broadcom Corporation
> (949) 926-5889
> dstanley@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:55 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Retaining nets on
> free-standing vias
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I deal with this all the time.. The best way I found
> to handle it was to
> define a small static shape on top of the via with
> the net name attached
> to it.  This shape is defined a little larger than
> the via geometry on
> the top side of the PCB and whenever I move the via
> I make sure to
> select the shape as well.
> 
> Kind of a pain but it gets me past the problem. 
> Maybe someone else has
> a better way of handling this.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Daniel So" <danielso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>@freelists.org
> on 03/02/2006
> 11:43:43 AM
> 
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> free-standing vias
> 
> 
> Hi Everyone
> 
> 
> 
> Please excuse me if this is an old subject.
> 
> 
> 
> I have thru-hole vias connected to a gnd plane on
> the top layer. There
> is +5v plane on the bottom side of the PCB. There
> are no clines
> connected to the vias so when ever I move the gnd
> plane, the vias are
> now associated to the +5v plane. I now have to move
> the +5v plane before
> moving back the gnd plane if I want to keep these
> vias associated to
> gnd. This is really a bad problem on a multi-layer
> board with different
> planes on different layers and when I have vias that
> I want to keep
> associated to different nets.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there any way to keep the vias associated to the
> original nets
> without connecting clines to them? Cadence did not
> have an answer.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions
> 
> Daniel So
> 
> email: danielso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> (See attached file: C.htm)
> 
> 
> 
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