Hey man, Thanks for the idea. Yeah, it sort of worked. I set the Bounding Box to 2100 (mils). The gerber for this negative layer now included my targets and film description box, but they are negative. With RS-274D, the negative layers still had the lines and text of the targets/film description box (of course outside of the board outline) as positive. Thanks again, this may be better than not getting them at all if I do indeed decide to go to 274X. Regards, Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Man Tran Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:14 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: RS-274X Gary, Try to set Shape Bounding Box in Artwork Control Form and make sure this number (measure from board's outline) large enough to cover any lines & text that you want to show. -man ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:08 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] RS-274X Hey guys, Allegro PCB 15.5.1, Expert license, Windows XP Pro Ok, RS-274X question. I like negative inner planes, and include targets (lines) and a film description box (lines and text) below the board. I notice that when I gerber out negative plane film in RS-274X format, I don't get the targets (lines) nor the film box (lines and text). I see the same results whether I load the gerbers into an Allegro database or CAM350. Is there any way to get the lines and text on a negative film with RS-274X? Thanks for any help! Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx