Hello listers: I can't answer to what Levelstar may or may not provide, so Icon users will have to inquire with the appropriate agency. As far as the Braille + is concerned, we (APH), DO NOT provide the manual in braille, because since it is updated frequently, it would be too expensive to keep updating the braille copies and changing them. Our Accessibility statement says that we will provide "One of the following." This does not mean all of the following, as most of you have probably figured out. However, I just wanted to dispel the rumors, before we start getting calls for something we don't have. The manual comes on the CD, as well as on our web site. Plus, it is installed on the Braille + itself. Thank you. Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT American Printing House For The Blind 1839 Frankfort Ave. Louisville, KY 40206 PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>> chasec@xxxxxxxxxx 11/04/07 08:59PM >>> I didn't get the Braille manual or the manual on CD in my package. Did anyone else? If you look at the Icon/Braille Plus manual it says that you should get both types of manuals in your box no matter what type of device that you have. I do have the case and the shoulder strap, however. Chase Crispin -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:55 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Description of Icon I would if they supplied one i the package and I didn't get one but I got everything listed as items in the package. On Nov 4, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Chase Crispin wrote: > Contact level star/APH. > > > > > > > Chase Crispin > > -----Original Message----- > From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:52 PM > To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Description of Icon > > ah, I didn't get a shoulder strap. > > On Nov 4, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Richard Turner wrote: > >> Hi, >> A PDA without a screen makes sense. >> Also, giving a guess about the size might help and that there is a >> large phone number pad on it with a remote control like up/down >> left/right arrow key. >> >> Did yours not come with the shoulder strap? >> That would be a drag if someone walked off with it thinking it was >> cool looking. >> >> Good luck, >> Richard >> >> >> ---***--- >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terrence van >> Ettinger >> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:54 AM >> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [icon-discuss] Description of Icon >> >> Is there anything on an Icon that identifies it as such? Also, if >> you had to describe it to someone sighted in 5 words or less, how >> would you manage it? Despite all my best intensions mine disappeared >> last night and I've been trying to ask around about it...no one's >> seen it and I'm worried I might be describing it wrong. Is "PDA >> without a screen" a reasonable description or should I take a >> different tack? >> And some advice as a result of this: >> 1) Back up daily. You never know when you might need a contact and >> can't get to your icon (e.g. dead battery or disappearance.) >> 2) Identify the Icon as yours; put a label somewhere in/on the case >> with contact info etc. >> >> I swear if I do find the thing I'm making a neck rope for it...too >> much of my life is in that thing. >> >> Terrence >> >> >> > > > >