I also think that the case needs redesigned. It is to hard to get my Braille Plus in and out. Chase Crispin -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Rodgers Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:46 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Description of Icon Many sighted people think it is a phone too, although they all understand when I tell them it is a PDA without a screen. I never use my shoulder strap as I think it is too awkward when it is strapped to the ring. It is hard to type on it when it is on, and the strap really isn't too functional, in my opinion. As a matter off fact, I think the case is way too out dated looking. Sure, it may offer some protection but it doesn't look modern compared to everyone else carrying around their PDA's. When the think is taken out of the case it looks much more stylish. I would strongly suggest that the makers redesign the case in the future. I wouldn't mind a hard case that contains a flip top closure to protect the buttons. With a flip top cover we couldn't need to use the keyboard lock key so much either! Good luck finding yours. I know what you mean about keeping your whole life in the thing. We get so comfortable using it and get totally lost when it is not around, or working well. Good luck! Ken Rodgers kenrodgers@xxxxxxxxxxx "It's not the size of your dreams that determines whether or not they come true, but the size of the actions you take that imply their inevitable arrival." Authoor Unknown -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:56 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Description of Icon Hi, A PDA without a screen makes sense. Also, giving a guess about the size might help and that there is a large phone number pad on it with a remote control like up/down left/right arrow key. Did yours not come with the shoulder strap? That would be a drag if someone walked off with it thinking it was cool looking. Good luck, Richard ---***--- -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terrence van Ettinger Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:54 AM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Description of Icon Is there anything on an Icon that identifies it as such? Also, if you had to describe it to someone sighted in 5 words or less, how would you manage it? Despite all my best intensions mine disappeared last night and I've been trying to ask around about it...no one's seen it and I'm worried I might be describing it wrong. Is "PDA without a screen" a reasonable description or should I take a different tack? And some advice as a result of this: 1) Back up daily. You never know when you might need a contact and can't get to your icon (e.g. dead battery or disappearance.) 2) Identify the Icon as yours; put a label somewhere in/on the case with contact info etc. I swear if I do find the thing I'm making a neck rope for it...too much of my life is in that thing. Terrence