No problem. I am glad you liked the side story. I think it could be fun. Oh,
I wasn't saying change your personal works, but like you said, your
characters can be a little different when in anothers work/world. In fact, it
would make sense in a way they were different if this was an alternat
paralell universe. Kind of like a star trek episode where the good captain
kirk and crew encounter their evil versions in another dimension. That might
make an excellent map pack idea for you guys. Evil ron and evil alex, and in
the other dimension, the mother made jinx to kill/fight them to defend
humanity against their evil plans, instead of her prime version in which she
is kind of deranged and homicidal.
Or another universe where Jinx meets evil Jinx. It might be interesting.
Anyway, yeah You got the gist.
al
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[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Usually it would help to Play Final Fantasy 7 to understand the movie what's
done some still watch the movie and not play the game
But then they made continuations of the Final Fantasy game on the PlayStation
as well as other game systems they also made at least one that I know of
before final fantasy seven started call before crisis can't remember what
system it's on though
As for the characters in the idea I am open to ideas I was just letting you
know about the actual character itself in case you wanted to try and put
something together from both backgrounds if you want to try and make a
different one I'm open to the possibility
But I'm definitely not changing them in my map pack
But for this map pack idea I'm open to possibilities to help my friend
From what you were coming up with I was going to put it into the map pack and
surprise him
I'm really liking that idea were a pen allows the actual storyline where they
have a separate quest alongside the main quest of the story
I personally like stories that parallel each other especially when both
Cueist seems so close together and yet they still seem to never meet
It always leaves me the impression while reading a book or listening to an
audiobook with a similar story
Where it seems that the two groups may yet meat or may not meet
Storylines like that always make me want to actually keep reading the book to
find out if they eventually do or not
But like I said I am open to possibilities . Ron
On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I am glad I found it then!
Hmmm, I will have to look up that other Final Fantasy movie. I hadnt even
heard of it. Do you need to rplay 7 to understand the movie? I havent played
that one for a long time.
In the end, your characters are what they are. I was just trying to open up
the possibilities a bit, you know, break a few paradigms?
To be honest, characters you and Alex have ar tough, because they are heavily
influenced by your own desire to make them so much better then super.
This is kind of why superman is really hard to deal with. He flies backwards
in time, reverses planets rotation, lifts continents off the earth's surface
and flings them into outerspace. Once they are this potant, it becomes all
the harder to make them interesting and identifiable.
So what happens? Everyone and their mother throws kryptonite at him. The need
to make him vulnerable makes him a caricature rather then a character. Hope
that made sense.
al
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Yes that is the sound I've been looking for for sometime now
Yes I do remember seeing the movie I think they didn't quite put everything
together correctly but it still turned out good
But then there were two final fantasy movies that I do recall
Final fantasy spirits within which I know connection to the games
There was final fantasy seven advent children which follow right after final
fantasy sevens storyline
As for this possible storyline most of it would work
The only contradictions are my reference to the quest power and the force
are similar in some ways and I probably should've explain that more in the
first place
quest power can only be used through a quest weapon
The quest wielder can't actually sense or feel The quest power pre say only
when they're about to get hit by another quest ability there are no quest
abilities the consents others
But there are means of blocking the quest weapons connection to the quest
power
That would cause the quest weapon to go dormant
Where then the quest weapon can only be used as a regular weapon
Rikku does not have a quest weapon or access to one
In any case Ron would know enough to inform the local law or in this case
city watch of what happened
Ron is also good at not giving too much away about himself or who's with him
just enough to get the information crossed but not too much
As for Ron visiting this world he always goes down to the planet to see
things for himself in person to get first and experience about the level of
government cultures how they interact and level of technology and every time
he goes down to a planet something always happens to drag him in more
But then he can find out about the evil workings of that world as well
especially when he does not plan it that way as for quest demons are
actually created through the quest power how do not know
And for the magical cell that they teleport in Ron would be very difficult
for them to torture his normal response to questions are Oh really
And if The female apprentice or to attempt feminine charm on Ron he would
then smile with genuine interest but then say too bad we are on opposite
sides I might consider it where usually Ron gets smacked across the face as
a response to his comment but always seems to leave a look on their face as
if they had considered it for a split second and then change their minds
I don't know if this would be considered in your storyline but I thought I'd
give a reference to it in case it came up as a possibility later on
The part about melting two together that would work where the attempt to
merge two creatures together that would work a lot for in my opinion
These are just references from my map pack
Otherwise I think it would work
I won't be able to ask my friends opinion until Monday on till he returns
from his girlfriends
Otherwise I don't have a problem with the way it's going . Ron
On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ron,
Here is the link to the sound I found. It should be the town portal from
diablo one.
It is as clean as I could get it, so I hope it is useful.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68028683/diablo%20town%20portal.mp3
Wow, 15! That is a lot of sequels for a series of fantasy games that are
called Final, lol.
I remember the movie too, That was a fun movie, although a bit strange.
Ok, here is what I am thinking for your friends alternat map pack.
Ron, Jinx and Rikku end up on Antara , which is the game world. They detected
a strange disturbance featureing the mysterious quest power. The disturbance
was just enough to get their attention, so they decide to check it out.
At the Inn, they have that encounter with an ogre demon.
After the encounter, Jinx sees a black cat huddled in a corner of their room.
She takes pity on it, thinking it was scared. She picks it up, but it
teleports her away with itself.
The player knows it was Tabitha but Ron, Jinx and Rikku did not.
Fearful of what might happen to Jinx, they attempt to use the mysterious
quest power to try and detect Jinx's location. They find the power to be
strangely diffused, like light is diffused thru murky water or a dirty pane
of glass.
The attempt fails, forcing them to figure out another means of looking for
their friend.
They don't go far, since they have to report the attack and dead bodies and
Jinx being whisked away by a cat via magic, to the local city watch. The
constable finds their report is truthful and that they were forced thru self
defense. Just after making the report, Guards come up to the constable,
stating that Gerend has been arrested for his connection with some new slaver
guild. One of gerend's many accomplices had been caught using some strange
coins in an attempt to bribe a guard.
The thug had given up gerend to avoid the gallows, and also the name of a
wizard named Fazoon.
The constable is not surprised by Gerend being dirty and explains to Ron and
Rikku that people had been abducted over the past few months. Mostly they
were low life nobodies, but their friend Jinx could be one of those abducted.
Ron asks if he and his friend could help capture the wizard, in hopes of
finding their friend. After all, the black cat seemed to be a familiar or at
least possessed magic of their own.
The constable tells them that, most likely, the paladins will be leading the
arrest of the wizard, but that he knew one of the paladin's men, a man named
Malcolm Crombie . A good NCO and second assistant to Vinton Marlow who is in
charge of the paladins contingent of men.
That night Malcolm has Ron and Rikku join a group of guards to watch the
back of the house. To their shock, the group sees the house erupt in flames.
A massive fire elemental bursts out of the house and ron with Rikku and some
city guards must fight and defeat it.
After the fight, the house is blackened shards and smoke.
The city guard, rikku and ron were left to search for bodies and clues.
No bodies found, Ron and Rikku left alone among the ruins as the guards give
up and leave.
One of the two friends suddenly discover a secret concealed door by accident,
and they decide to plunge ahead alone, for Jinx's sake.
They go below and discover a labrynth of traps. After they pass thru the
labyrinth, then enter into the laboratory.
They find the lab is partly packed, as if someone packed in a hurry and only
took what they felt most important.
They find formulas and spell scrolls and discover that the wizard fazoon was
actually the cause of the quest power disturbance.
They surmise thru the notes that Fazoon was attempting to meld two beings
into a single entity that could bear the mysterious quest power.
One of the notes showed what seemed like a cat and human hybrid, as well as
ogre and demon, and one particular nasty one. A snake with a woman.
Each note features a number of jotted notes that reveal that Fazoon was
testing by trial and error. A large number of his test subjects have Dead
written by them, some have failed by their category name. Only a quarter of
the test subjects were successes.
Rikku discovers that a page is missing detailing how the Jinx test subject
will be the breakthrough Fazoon needs. The page is half ripped, with the
sentence written split in half. The sentence written is " I will take the cat
woman to.
The other half of the page is stuck underneath a door. She picks the lock
and opens the door to get the paper fragment, but with in the room are the
failed abominations. Horrible mutated creatures that seem to have a strange
siphoning effect on quest power.
After the fight, they find the other half of the page mentions the teleport
circle Fazoon was forced to use.
The friends discover it, and decide to use it.
They land in a jail cell made of a sickly green metal. The metal immediately
glows and begins to drain the two friends empty of their mysterious quest
power.
The weapons and powers are useless, They see that their captor is a drow
wizardess who is accompanied with a variety of creatures.
Two gnolls, an assassin bearing an elf skathe, a second drow female, an
apprentice perhaps. There is also a Halfling, half orc barbarian and a human
cleric.
The wizardess explains that if they attempt to flee, or resist them in any
way, all she needs to do is use a crystal ball located on a table near by and
tell her master. Jinx would then be skinned alive as punishment.
The drow asks them questions.mostly about Jinx, what was used to make her,
how it was done. Rikku states that the drow doesn't know who she and her
master fazoon is messing with.
The drow wizardess simply says that Fazoon is not her master. Tiaxx is the
master, and Tiaxx will rule all.
She tells her apprentice to do what she has to to get the information out of
them, and she teleports away.
A week or more goes by. Ron and Rikku are weak, having only been given water
and bread. They have been tortured for the information. They know if they
tell, they will die and so will Jinx.
Then one day, faint sounds of battle could be heard. The drow apprentice
consults the crystal ball. She is told by Viconia that prisoners had escaped
and her and her friends were needed. Bring everyone she tells her. The
escaped prisoners are quite resourceful.
The apprentice gathers her friends and as many kobolds as possible.
More later
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Last I checked final fantasy 15 came out recently at least not too long ago
Final Fantasy 12 was the last One I played before I went blind
I remember playing gauntlet and if I recall there was a sequel and I played
it to something about sorrows in the title
As for Gundams it's OK they're pretty much the same thing just with a
different name but I do remember in some of the episodes they did refer to
some of the regular mobile suits as Mech warriors Who would be custom mobile
suits that would dominate the space battle at least until some Gundams showed
up
As for the characters in the story line I do understand that that is
difficult Any help with the idea would be helpful . Ron
On Nov 1, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow, their up to FF10? Geez.
I actually really enjoyed a PS title called Suikoden. That was such a great
game. The second one of the PS2 was also really good.
I would love to make a map pack similar to that, ut I don't think I could do
it on TB.
I never got to play diablo, but a person I knew let me watch him play it. I
reminded me of Gauntlet. Although much better of course.
I am still looking, although I found some interesting sounds for who I think
are diablo characters. They are not from diablo itself I don't think. Since
going blind my son is the only one who keeps up with that kind of thing now,
lol.
Ah, ok, Gundam. Sorry, I don't know why I went to mech warrior on that one.
Hmmm, Here is the thing. The characters don't fit and just couldn't be in the
original. I am willing to include a little description in a map describing
the characters in passing. Maybe as captured slaves, or as people entering a
portal, but actual interaction of anything more as they are is just really
untenable. If I did include the characters, they would b so changed in
everyway, it would not be what they were, nor what I was already planning.
The paralell idea is fine If he wants to make an alternate timeline were his
characters and mine interact and the like, that's perfectly fine with me. But
it would be a seperte work that was, I guess the term is fan fiction?
Iam at a crossroads. I worked this hard to get the map pack to this point,
but I feel for your friend who just wants to share his creative outlet, which
I understand completely.
Al
