[huskerlug] Re: A 100 watt laptop requires 960 lbs of coal per year!
- From: tw <techworld.mail@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:30:02 -0500
What's the fun of that. It appears to be much easier to simply get your
news from The Daily Show :p
Joseph Smith, how on earth is it possible to debate with someone who
gets to decide what evidence is valid, what scientists are "real" and
what data actually exists?
THAT is the problem with global warming, THAT is the problem behind the
"scientists" in charge. Anyone that disagrees is dismissed as crazy.
You keep talking about glaciers melting and all that. That doesn't make
sense given the temperatures of the oceans the link brought up earlier.
Is their data not "real" enough for you?
I've got $20 on global warming being dismissed in the next few decades
if not sooner. Just as every doomsday prophet in the past has been,
these ones will be as well.
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 23:10 -0500, Joseph Smith wrote:
> The amount of ice melting is far from normal-- if you consider the
> past several millennia normal and the rapid change in the past couple
> of decades abnormal--- any sane person would.
>
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080325-antarctica-photo.html
>
> Do you really believe thousands of climatologists the world over are
> being mislead by summer glacial ice melt? I know its hard to imagine
> the impact we are having on this planet living in Lincoln, NE, but for
> god sake, at least educate yourself on the subject before you comment
> on it.
>
> On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:48 PM, John Moran wrote:
>
> > Okay, here goes - glaciers melt when it gets above freezing. It gets
> > above freezing a lot in the spring, summer, and fall.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Joseph Smith <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >> so, I guess the answer to my question is no.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:33 PM, John Moran wrote:
> >>
> >>> "anyone out there that isn't a conspiracy theorist??"
> >>>
> >>> I wish I could believe you said that ironically. The guy on Al
> >>> Gore's
> >>> side asking for rational allies?
> >>>
> >>> "Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries
> >>> recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the
> >>> so-called "consensus" on man-made global warming. These scientists,
> >>> many of whom are current and former participants in the UN IPCC
> >>> (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), criticized the climate
> >>> claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. "
> >>>
> >>> http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?
> >>> FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Joseph Smith <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> They call themselves "Self described scientists". If your going to
> >>>> post links to anti-global warming "evidence", the least you could
> >>>> do
> >>>> is find information compiled by *real* scientists This SOB doesn't
> >>>> even believe in natural selection, less evolution.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll ask again-- one of these bunk scientists has yet to give a
> >>>> satisfactory explanation for why 100,000 year old glaciers are
> >>>> melting
> >>>> away before our eyes.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> give me a break.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> anyone out there that isn't a conspiracy theorist??
> >>>>
> >>>> -Joe
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:19 PM, GreyGeek wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> tw wrote:
> >>>>>> Sorry Joseph,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since 2003, the first year that network from my link was put in
> >>>>>> place
> >>>>>> temperatures are dropping. It's mostly bunk science and
> >>>>>> politically
> >>>>>> motivated at best. I mean, you can disagree with that all you
> >>>>>> want
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> you're parroting the lines that people have used for the past
> >>>>>> hundred
> >>>>>> years to 'prove' their claims of both disastrous global warming
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> cooling. None of their claims have come true yet. There's a
> >>>>>> reason for
> >>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM600.pdf
> >>>>>
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