[openbeos] kernel/userland networking (was: Re: on SoftwareValet for OBOS)

  • From: François Revol <revol@xxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:31:47 +0100 (MET)

Eh, a point for you :)

> Because a lot of people don´t know what they're talking about.
> 
> Travis

I'm sorry to say that even if BONE crashes sometimes for me, it does it far 
less than net_server, which used to eat up all the memory before freezing all 
the system every 5 minutes when using BeShare (so I don't see the use of out-of
-kernel networking if it crashes it anyway :P)
Moreover in-kernel networking has it ups:
- available at boot, which means : bootp, nfs root (for *nix OSes that is) ...
- lower latency
- higher throughput
- sockets as files (yeah I know we can do it for net_server as well using a 
user filesystem or a device driver, but hey that's not plain userland then :P)


En réponse à Manuel Jesus Petit de Gabriel <freston@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> 
> 
> > But a question remain. Why so many people flamed Be Inc to include
> the
> > network stuff (BONE) inside the kernel itself, if that kernel was
> monolithic
> > anyway ?  I'm a bit confuse here. Someone can put a light on this for
> me ?
> 
> I think it has to do with the massive instabilities in the early
> versions of
> Bone,
> net_server crashed as much than those early versions... but at least
> the
> system
> remained alive with net_server.
> 
> 
> manuel,
> 
> >
> > thanks
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Manuel Jesus Petit de Gabriel" <freston@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:36 PM
> > Subject: [openbeos] Re: on SoftwareValet for OBOS
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm fully on your side. The most important part in the name
> "OpenBeOS"
> > > must
> > > > be ... "BeOS".  And I'm not a big fan of Linux too (I hate
> monolithics
> > > > kernels).
> > >
> > > This paragraph is not coherent: first praise BeOS for later stating
> that
> > you
> > > hate monolithic kernels. BeOS kernel is a monolithic (thought
> modular)
> > one.
> > >
> > >
> > > manuel,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 





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