Who started off the Reference vs Pointer thing? Its snow-balled and it can't be stopped. Its interesting reading all the different views. I've only seen one question cause more trouble, the evil "Intel vs AMD?" question. And before you think of typing an anwser DON'T spare us all we love all CPU's because they run our OSes for us. Which brings me onto BeOS5 Personal edition, has anyone else had trouble with running it on an XP system? I've given it, its own FAT32 partition and it loads the bootloader from floppy, does some thinking then resets the system. bye, Scott