[haiku-development] Re: Haiku R1A5 timelines?
- From: Daniel <headbulb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:20:11 -0600
Haiku is pretty amazing for where it started.
That said it does need a bit more attention and releasing alpha's
would have gotten that. If with alpha we have a new feature or some
new beos compatibility. It's attention that haiku could really use.
It's awareness that otherwise wouldn't be known. Sure we will still
get the nayslayers but with them comes the people that actually care
about the project and potential money. The people being negative
should be ignored unless they have a valid concern. We should be
pushing the positives.
As Mr Pintal said Haiku is a big project that needs funding to
actually make progress. I think bounties have been done in the past.
Such as the work that was done on Package Management or the work being
done on WebPositive
Again people don't know about the work that's been done if it's not
being announced in the media aimed at interested demographics. Alpha
releases with a list of changes would have done that. With interest
comes potential funding which all open source projects need to really
progress.
The developers and all involved have worked hard to get Haiku where it is today.
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Przemysław Pintal
<premislaus1988@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Our current situation is very bad. I define it as stagnation. In some
> sense, I am responsible for marketing and support for users. I talk to
> people, I urge them and I know their feelings. Dozens of people have
> commit acces, only a few are constantly active. Haiku is too large
> project to be just a hobby. The most valuable things have been done
> during the contracts and GSoC. About Haiku you can read a few times in
> a year. Always appear the same comments: BeOS was great, a dozen years
> and still alpha, did not see the point, fun, etc.. About any Linux
> project you can read on a daily basis, it makes the brand exists in
> the minds of people. More any buzz = more users, more haters, more
> developers, more funds, etc. In short, it means awareness, frequent
> messages is also the impression of dynamic development.
>
> haiku-os.pl has registered 1,000 users in the last six months, active
> users was just over 10, we have an average of 25 unique visitors per
> day. Fortunately, I was able to befriend with OSWorld.pl (open source
> news and articles) - 30,000 unique daily.
>
> My point is that Haiku was cool for someone like he was 21 years old,
> has ceased to be when someone has for example 30 years. We have lost
> many people, we are not able to reverse the trend. Maybe we did
> something wrong (haiku-os.pl). But it does not change the fact that
> people are changing priorities over the years. You are done studies,
> you have baby... I tried to persuade various young programmers, but
> they do not want to enter into something niche. It's hard to talk with
> them. We had a lot of great people and great soft for example, someone
> recently released the source code of its program for invoicing for
> Poland (in 2006 was a contest with a cash prize on the haiku-os.pl).
> The guy kept it over the years, probably because he thought that would
> be profitable.
>
> http://haiku-os.pl/node/1639
> http://translate.google.pl/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhaiku-os.pl%2Fnode%2F1639
> https://github.com/ytmytm/beos-fakBEtur
>
> I could write about this for a long time, about my experiences, about
> what plans and problems we had. I'm depressed.
>
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