[haiku-development] Re: Haiku Inc. and Haiku (was: AboutSystem window credits)
- From: "Ryan Leavengood" <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:43:52 -0400
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Urias McCullough <umccullough@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> But, perhaps it is not meant to be - are there any others (besides
> myself) who really strongly believe that Haiku, Inc. should continue
> existing at this point? Since I have personally taken on the challenge
> of recently trying to repair things further, I need to know if my, and
> others' efforts are going to be wasted at this point.
I still feel Haiku, Inc. should continue to exist. That is why I have
done what I have so far to help with the transition, even though it is
really tempting at times to just throw up your hands and give up.
Doing this Haiku, Inc. stuff is not at all fun. I am one of the few
Haiku developers in the U.S. and I would much rather spend my limited
"Haiku time" doing development and fixing bugs. Being a part of the
Haiku, Inc. "transition team" isn't all that special and given recent
mail threads about number of commits being measured I am really
starting to think I have been wasting my time. It is not a good
feeling to have.
> If necessary, I can direct my efforts into properly transferring the
> assets of Haiku, Inc. to another not-for-profit organization (this is
> how it must be done legally) and helping to shut it down instead, if
> that's what everyone wishes. I can then shift my support and
> participation in the Haiku Project to wherever it makes sense. I don't
> mind doing the "boring stuff" like legal matters, financial,
> administration, business relations, and marketing. I'm not necessarily
> an expert in any of these areas, but I'm capable, and not afraid to
> jump in when my time permits.
I personally think it would be much more time and effort to transfer
the Haiku, Inc. assets somewhere else, which is why I have always
supported the idea of "restoring" Haiku, Inc. into something workable.
> In other words, I'm not leaving, but I'm also not going to waste my
> time on something that has no relevant purpose. Please let me know
> what I should do, since I don't want to make this decision selfishly
> or unguided. I support the project and the community in general. :)
>
> So, does Haiku, Inc. have a real future?
I think Haiku, Inc. can have a real future and be as democratic and
member-based as BeFan. But unfortunately there is some work to do in
between. It would be nice if there were more than just Urias and
myself involved in this.
Finally, as Jorge has repeatedly said, Haiku, Inc. is just supposed to
be a helpful tool to be used in support of the Haiku Project. It is
not Google, it is not Apple, it is not Microsoft or even the Gnome
Foundation. It is just a tiny, tiny non-profit corporation that allows
for some things that an open source project could not do itself. This
whole "us vs them" situation, where Haiku, Inc. is seen as some shady
board room of old men trying to steer the Haiku Project for their own
benefit is just silly. Obviously I am exaggerating a bit, but I can't
help but feel that is how things are seen at times. I can tell you
exactly what Haiku, Inc. is right now: a failing U.S. non-profit that
barely exists, and I am one of the few people doing the mind-numbing,
boring work required to nurse it back to health.
Ryan
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