Yah, I guess they would frown on any passenger who did manage to open a window!! :) That is exactly what the maker of the chip used in the EarthMate (SiRF) claims; that is, if you get a good fix using 4 or more satellites; it will maintain it with as few as 2 satellites afterwards. I have a relatively new vehicle, and it indeed does have the metalic coating used for window tinting, on the sunroof and the rear windows, but not on the front and 2 front/side windows, so I have to sit in the front passenger seat to use my EarthMate. One other thing worth mentioning; standing still while obtaining your original coldstart fix will yield a fix *much* quicker than trying to get one while moving (say in a bus). This may improve matters somewhat as you suggest if you stand still outside the bus first to get a good fix, and then board. Hth, Chip =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20 > bobbyk@xxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:51 PM > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gps-talkusers] GPS on the BUS >=20 > Anna,Chip, > I thought the same bus-gps signal acquisition issues applied=20 > to airline travel, but I couldn't pry the window open. > I have found getting a fix before entering a metallic vehicle=20 > helps when a weak signal is all that is available. The warm=20 > start sometimes seems to work when a cold start does not.=20 > When traveling; if I get a fix on the way to the airport I=20 > can generally get a fix through the jets window. > Bobby >=20 >=20 >=20