[gps-talkusers] Creating Useful Routes

  • From: Michael May <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:15:01 -0700

Jana,

When you are recording waypoints in a route, it doesn't matter if you take a side trip to mark something else as a point of interest. Just return to your route and record the next relevant waypoint when it is time.

If the automatic route doesn't suit you, you can edit it and insert manual waypoints as well. How to do that exactly is explained in the manual.

We also explain in the manual about the distance to intersections. The intersection is the point in the middle of the two intersecting streets. That means that you could be standing at one corner and be 50 feet from the center of the intersection. Add 30 feet GPS inaccuracy and you are now up to 80 feet away. Add to that the fact that the street itself may be off by 20 feet and you are at 100 feet in total.

The accuracy of street data varies from town to town but is usually within 10 to 20 feet. It is off by 50 feet around my neighborhood. This doesn't tend to bother me because it is pretty clear when I reach a curb, which street I am standing near even if the GPS says it is 100 feet away. If I stand for 30 seconds or so, that number may drop. These are nuances you get used to over time so you aren't worried about precision as much as you are about knowing that you are indeed at Brown street and not green street.

The manual route creation we added in version 3.3 were specifically geared toward marking sidewalks and routes across campus. It will take some practice for you to record waypoints in the ideal locations and to mark them with useful descriptions. Once you record it correctly, following is pretty precise. We try to cover this in the manual. This is not something that is covered in the audio tutorial, which is more general on most topics.

If we have missed some of your questions, perhaps you could ask one or tow at a time so it is easier to keep the thread clear.

Mike



Hello,

I am new to GPS and am just beginning the process of learning how to create and edit routes. i work at a small college on a residential campus with many meandering sidewalks and thrange intersections. It seems that whenever a new building has been constructed, they have added sidewalks but never taken any existing sidewalks out. plus, I have seriously been told that decisions about where to place new sidewalks have been made by observing the most common paths taken by people who cut through the grass. In any case, there are a number of tricky spots, and if one gets onto a different sidewalk than the one intended, a person can end up in a completely different location on campus than expected. So you can imagine that I am excited about the prospect of creating many routes and points of interest to help me more reliably navigate around campus.

I already have several questions that I imagine some of you more experienced folks can help with.

First, I am wondering what strategies people have used to create routes and points of interest. By that I am wondering if people generally go around an area and create a bunch of points of interest and then go back and record routes taking them from place to place that they need to go or do they do it the other way around or do they just record the points of interest as they go. Here's an example to illustrate what I mean. I was creating a route today from the building I work in to my home which is a few blocks from campus. There is one place where two sidewalks split apart. If you accidentally stay on the right fork instead of taking the left, you will end up at a residence hall. I don't normally visit this residence hall so probably don't need a route to it, but it would be helpful to have it designated as a point of interest so if I accidentally approach it I will be alerted as to where I am. I thought for a minute about walking over to the dorm today to record the POI but then realized that this little detour would then be part of the route I was recording and wondered if that meant that if I didn't take the same detour every time I was in the route I'd be told I was off course. So it would be helpful to know how others have approached this.

I also wonder how people have designated turns where you need to cross a street in one direction and then cross the other street in order to get to the corner you want to proceed on. I have read that you don't want t oput two waypoints too close together. So what do I do if I come to an intersection and want to turn left, cross the street and then turn right and cross again and then turn left to proceed down the block. There are some intersections where i only cross in a certain way because it's not a perfect intersection and/or there are not sidewalks on all corners or some other feature that makes it a better idea to cross in a certain way tha nin another. How do people handle this when creating a route? Also, if the right/left/straight designation is off, is this what will trigger the GPS to say that you are off your route or is that based on how you walk when you are recording the route regardless of what you specified when asked straight, left or right?

Finally, I have noticed that even when the GPS says it is getting good satellite reception i am being told that the next intersection is 198 feet ahead when, by my estimation, it is more like 50 feet ahead. It's my understanding that by changing if the announcement is made sooner or later this is based on the GPS's guess about how far you are from an intersection or POI, but if the accuracy of the distance from the intersection or POI seems to be considerably off, is there anything to be done about that? Do some cities have information that is just 'off" or what?

In terms of creating a route, do I need to specify a destination and, if so, should I do that before starting out or once I get there or do I only do that if I want to have the program create an automatic route for me?

is there any way besides traveling the route over and over to make a certain sequence part of multiple routes? In my situation, I walk to work via a different route than that generated if I do an automatic route from my house to the campus because there are not sidewalks on many parts of streets around here so i have to take that into consideration. Thus, I want to have routes from my house to a number of different points on campus. Can I take the part of the route that is common to all and somehow drop it into other routes? If it involves route editing, I'd appreciate some specific instructions on how people have done this--if it is typically done sitting down in one place or if you do it as you'r ewalking on the route or if that depends, then what factors are involved in deciding what method to use?

I apologize for so many different questions in one message. I hope that folks can help with each of these areas as I want this to be more than an interesting gadget which is what it will be if I can't figure out how to create quality routes.

Thanks,
Jana Schroeder



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