On Faradays Riddle, science and the devil.. oops. "does the field rotate with the magnetising force?" The Church (the vatican occupants) ARE TO ME IN A STATE OF WHAT IS CALLED DIABOLICAL DISORIENTATION. The term is not mine.. It came from an apparition, which my Protestant friends do call a manifestation of the devil. Well either way. the Devil or God would know. But This diabolical disorientation is not just in the Vatican. I am absolutely certain it is in the world universally, and in particular for this post, the world of Physical science. Engineering science cannot afford it.. Thats how planes crash. For the past few weeks I have worked on solving the Faraday Riddle mentioned before, because it is closely associated with the GC/HC delemma. It drove Faraday to his grave almost mad. Mainly because he absolutely accepted Galileo, and the idea of a stationary earth NEVER was a thought. Anyway, I have not yet proved myself to be much better, in that my proof fell flat in this recent week just as I was about to release this brilliant writeup to you all. Hence not to be discouraged, knowing my knowledge of ancient memory could be faulty, as regards magnetic theory, I went to Wiki, oh almighty Wiki always bound to tell us every angle of everything.. YES Yes ,, they do. They comfirmed my memory as true, and they , well they mixed it with the new stuff, stuff like Maxwell before I was born, not mentioned in my class, but re re-gurgitated today.. in this crazy way.. I hope you can follow it as I put in my ancillary comment in brilliant green or something. Why did I go to wiki..? Well I wanted to find the answer definitively to this question before I posted my brilliant thesis to you all. Maybe a PHuD reading this question can give me the answer. Cynically, he'd have to be an old PHuD. Question: Preamble: When I was a little boy,('50's) magnetic field strength H was measured "gauss" or "oersted," (nationalism or judaism) the force on a unit pole as dynes per unit pole. This force was dependent on the field density, B which we denoted in lines per sq centimetre. Q. If two identical poles of two different permanent magnets each having a pole face density of 1200gauss, lines per sq cm, were placed to closely face each other in attracting mode, will the magnetic density B between them be 1200 or twice that? Keep in mind you are comparing it to just one magnet facing an equivalent piece of Hi permeability soft iron, having no magnetising force of its own. Soft iron in magnetic circuits merely provides a low reluctance path for magnetic field to keep the intensity, density constant. My thesis and solution depends upon it being unchanged, ie 1200. even though I believe the opposite may be true. But I need to know. so now on to Wiki confusion. B and H There are two quantities that physicists may refer to as the magnetic field, notated and . The vector field is known among electrical engineers as the magnetic field intensity or magnetic field strength also known as auxiliary magnetic field or magnetizing field. ( also known, yimminy four names.., not my engineers.. they had one certainty)The vector field is known as magnetic flux density or magnetic induction or simply magnetic field, as used by physicists, (notice the separation of the powers of state engineers v physicist) and has the SI units of teslas (T), equivalent to webers (Wb) per square metre or volt seconds per square metre. Magnetic flux has the SI units of webers so the field is that of its areal density. [1][2][3][4][1] What is areal WOW take you pick.. teslas webers .. seems even the Jews cannot agree to who gets the glory. though I'm not sure tesla was a Jew. But we had lines per sq centimeter.. The vector field has the SI units of amperes per metre and is something of the magnetic analog to the electric displacement field represented by , with the SI units of the latter being ampere-seconds per square metre. Although the term "magnetic field" was historically reserved for , with being termed the "magnetic induction", is now understood to be the more fundamental entity, and most modern writers refer to as the magnetic field, except when context fails to make it clear whether the quantity being discussed is or . See: [2]Oh what a tangled web.. "except ewhen the context makes it clear.." No constants.. no constraints. Writers have no need to be correct... The year 2000 was the first year of the new millenium.. WRONG.. but no apology for the error.. Whats one year error in 1000? the above paragraph is totally unscientific. Here is their excuse: The difference between the and the vectors can be traced back to Maxwell's 1855 paper entitled On Faraday's Lines of Force. It is later clarified in his concept ? dream of a sea of molecular vortices aether theory? that appears in his 1861 paper On Physical Lines of Force - 1861. Within that context, represented pure vorticity (spin), SPIN is right. whereas was a weighted vorticity that was weighted for the density of the vortex sea. OH dear more aether? Maxwell considered magnetic permeability µ to be a measure of the density of the vortex sea. Hence the relationship, Actually Mu or permeability is a measure of a materials ability to be magnetised. High mu iron for example made good soft iron magnetic material for transfer or conducting magnetic fields. Permanent magnets generally were not high mu (1) Magnetic induction current causes a magnetic current density was essentially a rotational analogy to the linear electric current relationship, (2) Electric convection current where ? is electric charge density. was seen as a kind of ? magnetic current of vortices ? aligned in their axial planes, with being the circumferential velocity of the vortices. With µ representing vortex density, we can now see how the product of µ with vorticity leads to the term magnetic flux density which we denote as .Oh no I do not see any such thing from such an imagined concept. Now I do see this relating to an aether, but they have no way of quantifying as REAL such things as "vortex circumference velocities" or showing there to be any spins.. as they call it.. Pure science fiction.. The electric current equation can be viewed as a convective current of electric charge that involves linear motion. By analogy, the magnetic equation is an inductive current involving spin. There is no linear motion in the inductive current along the direction of the vector. The magnetic inductive current represents lines of force. In particular, it represents lines of inverse square law force. To me two words are misplaced and used in a material manner. "convection" relates to thermo currents in a fluid. and vectors are a graphical representation in mathmatics, having nothing to do with real space. to say There is no linear motion in the inductive current along the direction of the vector.is a nonsense use of the english language and the jargon of the engineer.. Did this writer ever write the word analogy? or analogous to? Have fun with the rest.. I'm finished.. Philip. . The extension of the above considerations confirms that where is to , and where is to ?, then it necessarily follows from Gauss's law and from the equation of continuity of charge that is to . Ie. parallels with , whereas parallels with . In SI units, and are measured in teslas (T) and amperes per metre (A/m), respectively; or, in cgs units, in gauss (G) and oersteds (Oe), respectively. Two parallel wires carrying an electric current in the same direction will generate a magnetic field that will cause a force of attraction between them. This fact is used to define the value of an ampere of electric current. The fields and are also related by the equation (SI units) (cgs units), where is magnetization.