1) As most of you know, my paper, "Stellar distances and the age of the universe," aims to prove that the MAXIMUM distance to a 6th magnitude "Sun-like" star is 1.27 light-days. Said Neville. Neville, I'll pass and wait till you have achieved your aim. Personally, I'm happy with the alleged figure of Proxima Centauri, at 4.3 light-years. There is just a chance one of our satellites might get a light day or so away one day. Mind you with the constants of velocity and time etc stuffing up the equation, we could say who knows for sure how far out it is. Even the speed of EMR???? would constitute no proof. Even if the stars went on to infinity, this would not effect the argument between geocentrism, or heliocentrism. I would carefully remind myself here that no one seriously holds helio to be the centre of the universe. Why havn't we called it galaxcentrism? Even parallax to be an argument needs to be based upon assumptions of relative size to distance. Both of which could be erroneous. Let alone the weight of the thing? Has anyone looked lately at how they estimate the mass of the Sun? Or the Moon? Then if there is an elastic aether, ............does a billion light years make any difference to the age of the Universe? Realistically, if we hold to the BELIEF that God created the Garden earth and all the stars just some 7,000 years ago, in a flash of a day or a second, we would be quite stupid to think that some of the trees in this garden had no rings indicating various ages, or that the lovely river running past did not have pebbles that indicated millions of years of erosion. Or that the starlight that first shone onAdams face, had not a source of a body 50 or more lightyears away. Thats creation. Science cannot prove galaxcentrism, nor disprove geocentrism, any more than can they prove or disprove creation. Yet the latter has been demonstrated impirically by scientists. The argument then was who or what was responsible, and was quickly dropped. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>