Gary, You answered: "No.1, yes. ... The acentric cosmology necessitates something that is still developing, thus making the Bible wrong. I don't accept that." I think, by this, your objection to acentrism is the "infinite" universe it requires? If so, then I agree with you. "No.2, No, primarily because I don't see how you can say the geocentric cosmology has anything to do with acentrism." You are mixing up your understanding of what "geocentrism" means and what the acentrist takes it to mean. This is the main reason for getting everyone to stick with the Biblical argument for so long. A geostatic World is also geocentric to you (and I - which is why we call our mathematical model "Geocentric Universe," rather than "Geostatic Universe"), but in modern science it MUST include a rotating World. (For those of you who have Geocentric Universe 2.2, see the illustrated talk, "Heliocentrism and Relativity," on the Guided Tour.) This second point also answers a question you posed earlier, when you asked me about Dr. Bouw's interpretation of geocentrism as having a rotating World. Dr. Bouw maintains the dynamical equivalence of heliocentrism and geocentrism. This means that, yes, he supports a rotating World (although I don't think he appreciated that until recently, when he started to use the term, "geostatic" after a list that Jack Lewis set up). 1. IN BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY, THE WORLD DOES NOT ROTATE. Website www.midclyth.supanet.com Neville. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com