I saw a very interesting program on BBC4 last night about the constantly impending doom we seem to be obsessed with - the new ice age, global warming, asteroids, the millenium bug etc. I agree that a lot of rather tenuous ideas have been grossly misrepresented by the media and by some not so scientifically impartial scientists. Apart from the obvious problem of "panic - doom is nigh" headline selling better than "same old same old", there is a problem for even the hype immune among us. We can't all be experts in everything and we do have to decide which experts we believe are credible when and where they disagree. But I don't think any of the above applies to the geocentric argument. All of the physics involved in every discussion here is old, conventional, and apolitical. Einstein's theory of relativity has been confirmed (not to be false as far as we can measure) many many times over in many different ways. It is not supported purely by an interpretation of the Michaelson Morley experiment. Many scientists (especially when it was new) have tried to show it is false or contradictory -- without success. Regards, Mike.