Aha, now that makes sense. I will have to re-read every post you ever made to understand them correctly. Let me see, erased them all before last week...good. I'll be caught up soon. Ha, thanks. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:52 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: SYSTEMS. . > LOL the yanks taught me that one... its with a smile or laughing... lying on the floor rolling around the floor laughing. Generally to add the meaning, "don't take me too seriously, I have my tongue in my cheek or a smile on my face" or what I said is meant to be laughable. Some people just put (grin) , but that takes too many fingures.....LOL > Philip > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Shelton > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:08 AM > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: SYSTEMS. . > > > Philip, > > I will concede I find that a bit of a stretch. Notice I did say "boost", > though, not "incontrovertible proof". In any case it is straight from Dr. > Bouw, not me. > > BTW WDTL "LOL" mean? > > translated, > > By the way, what do the letters "LOL" mean? > > I always assumed "Lots of luck" > > Wrong? > > Gary Shelton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip" <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:06 AM > Subject: [geocentrism] SYSTEMS. . > > > > The Brahe system gets a boost by the passage of Joshua 10:12-13 where > > it is said the sun was in the midst of heaven. Therefore, some placement > of > > the sun centrally is justified per that thinking. > > NO GARY, IF WE INSIST UPON ACCURACY ALL THE TIME, then wecannot interpret > midst as meaning centre or middle. In fact it does not mean such.... midst > means among... and as viewed from earth it is among the stars and other > celestial bodies. > > > > However the dual meaning could be taken, (as the Bible often allows) as > the earth is the centre, then the sun and indeed all of the solar system is, > being in relative close proximity, in our midst. or among us. > > > > LOL He he he he... > > > > Philip. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gary Shelton > > To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:53 PM > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group. > > > > > > > > Cheryl, > > > > Yes, I would say a good description of the sun's double helix is a > spring, > > as you say. But no, this doesn't have anything to do with the moon > phases. > > Geostatically speaking, moon phases are caused by the difference in > angular > > velocity between the slower moon and the faster sun. Heliocentrically > > speaking, they are caused by the 1/2 degree per hour counter-clockwise > > (eastwardly) motion of the moon around the earth. > > > > No, I'm not talking of the Brahe system. I'm a Ptolemaic guy myself. I > > believe Dr. Jones will advise he feels the same. > > > > Brahe had the sun and moon orbiting the earth, but all the planets > orbiting > > the sun, whereas the Ptolemaic system just simply places the earth in > the > > center around which all revolves. It seems more of a "purist" viewpoint > to > > me. The Brahe system gets a boost by the passage of Joshua 10:12-13 > where > > it is said the sun was in the midst of heaven. Therefore, some > placement of > > the sun centrally is justified per that thinking. > > > > The Clavius site is good on a few scientific matters. Primarily I was > > passing it on because of the Van Allen belt info it contained. > > > > Don't have an answer for the Voyager question. Apologies. > > > > Gary Shelton > > > > > > > > > Gary -- Thanks for that explanation. The double-helix orbit of the > sun -- > > > that's the one that spirals around starting at the bottom, looks like > a > > > bed-spring, gets to the top and comes back down? And this will > produce > > the > > > phases of the moon? You wouldn't see anything funny/odd at all if you > > left > > > earth in a space probe? What a disappointment. Is this the Tycho > Brahe > > > (sp?) model that you're speaking of? > > > > > > Dr. Jones has a different model he subscribes to? > > > > > > Well, anything is possible as we've seen from the other planets and > the > > > orbits of their moons. Some of them go one way, some another. > > > > > > I've been reading the Clavius site you sent me to. What is it you > want me > > > to take away from that site? > > > > > > Tell me what you think about Voyager? Is Voyager breaking some of > God's > > > cosmic laws, the way the gene cloners and stem cell researchers are? > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/05 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/05 > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/05