[geocentrism] Re: Psalm 19/ Christ 2nd Return
- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT)
Peter,
I'm not saying nor did i ever imply that Christ was already there?!..Revealtion
was written march 1 AD 69 + 45 Days...I have already covered this...This fact
can be prven from the text itself
The Apostles knew that Christ would come soon Because they belived Christ when
he said that generation and some of you would not taste death utill then....
Romans 16:20. And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly.
revelation 2:12. And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These
things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
13. I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is:
Revelation 1:1. The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to
shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, PETER CHARLTON <peter.nambo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: PETER CHARLTON <peter.nambo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Psalm 19/ Christ 2nd Return
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:18 AM
Just for starters, I thought I would compare you reasonings that Jesus presence
and 1000 year reign occurred during the time of the 7 congregations and whilst
Satan was in the abbyss.
Rev 2
10 Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. Look! The Devil will
keep on throwing some of YOU into prison that YOU may be fully put to the test,
Looks to me like the Devil is still active here.
12 “And to the angel of the congregation in Per´ga·mum write: These are the
things that he says who has the sharp, long two-edged sword, 13 ‘I know where
you are dwelling, that is, where the throne of Satan is; and yet you keep on
holding fast my name, and you did not deny your faith in me even in the days of
An´ti·pas, my witness, the faithful one, who was killed by YOUR side, where
Satan is dwelling.
Looks to me like it says Satan is dwelling in Per'ga-mum rather than the 1000
abbyss wrapped in chains.
24 “‘However, I say to the rest of YOU who are in Thy·a·ti´ra, all those who do
not have this teaching, the very ones who did not get to know the “deep things
of Satan,” as they say: I am not putting upon YOU any other burden. 25 Just the
same, hold fast what YOU have until I come. 26 And to him that conquers and
observes my deeds down to the end I will give authority over the nations,
Now here, Jesus is saying, "untill I come", but you are saying that Jesus was
allready there?
Another point, a reply to the Thessalonicans who had been hearing rumours that
the 2nd presence had allready began, written about 52 ad, Paul said "
2:1
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him,
2:2
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by
word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there
come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of
perdition;
2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself
that he is God."
Other translations say "the great Apostacy comes first", so, my question is, in
the 20 odd years between 52 ad and 74 ad, did a falling away occur?, was the
man of sin revealed, the son of perdition, showing himself that he is God?
Sounds like a pretty important event there, too important to have been lost to
history.
Pete Charlton
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From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 3:25 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Psalm 19/ Christ 2nd Return
History demonstrates that for a 1000 years Christianity ruled supreme on the
earth. Were there bad people yes..where there bad people in the church
itself..yes..…was there false doctrines…yes….did everybody understand
everything alike ..no….but this is the kicker…There are far more "bad
people", war and false doctrine these days.....ummmChrist with saints reing a
1000 years then satan is released to compas the camp of the saints.. for 1000
years the Christan "spirit" ruled ...........Christ Kingdom is a spiritual
kingdom those that are resurected have a spiritual Body ..... The spirit of
Christ and the saints..DOMINATED much of the physical world. In fact John in
the book of Revelation is specifically writing to the 7 churches in Asia…..and
guess what ….Those 7 churches were in fact part of one of the largest and a
most wealthiest empires…it was known as the Byzantium empire…..oh yea the
church and "Christianity" ruled supreme
there and for a 1000 years…in fact, It was not even until the 1300’s that
Christianity was ruthlessly begun to be stamped out in China. After the
thousand years Satan was to be released…and guess what.. we can see it.... it
was called:
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