In between in Brackets [ gary] Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Shelton To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Only originals inerrant? [Philip wrote:] "...as I agree with Neville, only the original is the inerrant word of God,..." You know, this is very problematic. How can we say that the original manuscripts, scribed by men, are infallible while translations by other godly men are automatically fallible? [ very problematic for those who hold to "BIBLE ONLY" for if you say the Holy Spirit guides all the the translaters and interpreters, how do you explain all the contradictions.Who has the authority or skill to discern the spirit infallibly? ] Take, Jesus. He was known to say "It is written..." a few times. Doesn't this lend a little credibility to translations? After all, some of the canonized books were over 1500 years old when He was on our globe. Languages and dialects would have dramatically changed in that amount of time. Therefore, wasn't Jesus using, and referring to, some kind of "translation"? Yet, wasn't He able to ascribe truth, and more, even authority, to the words that were commonly known in His day on the earth? [ Yes Gary, and you raised the correct question. Jesus had the Authority to interpret, not any other man there so had it. Not as you say "even authority", as it was the least important , but absolute authority. The question arises which you should think about. To whom did He pass on this authority when He left the Earth. Certainly not any Tom Dick and Harry, claiming the authority and the Spirit. Nor can He have meant it for each individuals conscience. For remember this, 30 And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias. And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest? 31 Who said: And how can I, unless some man shew me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. (now Philip did have the authority to do just that. ] That would mighty peculiar if all translations suffer from credibility. Jesus said, "It is written...", and I think there's some truth to be found in those three words. [The big problem is that it could never be written for every man. Certainly not till 1500 year later when the press eventuated. Yet could this invention be called a tool of God, when one looks at the 99% of printed material in Sodom today? Add to that the confusion caused by the abundance of contradictory Bibles. ] Philip snip.