Bob, > 9) So I have to conclude that you, like the Jehovah's Witnesses, believe > that the Holy Spirit is an "it" instead of a "He". The Greek word > translated "itself" in the KJV is 'ow-tos', which is an article or pronoun > translated depending on the context of its use. If we are > talking about the > Person of God, it is properly translated as "Him". [Someone who knows > Greek, please chime in]. The Greek masculine reflexive form for himself is 'autos'; alpha-upsilon-tau-omicron-sigma. 'ow-tos' is the phonetic rendering. The Greek neuter reflexive form for itself is 'auton'. I see no exegetical reason why 'autos' would be translated as neuter, contrary to its literal meaning. > 10) God is the Creator. The Divinity of Jesus is God but the humanity > (flesh) of Jesus is not. If the whole person of Jesus were God, He could > not have died on the cross. To say that the World was made > "through" Jesus > and not "by" Jesus is the most accurate way to express those facts. It is > not a "HUGE difference". It more accurately reflects where the Creative > power is derived from - God from eternity past. The body of Jesus did not > exist until 2000 years ago. His body had nothing to do with Creation. In > fact, it is part of the Creation. To say that the World was made > "by" Jesus > is to imply wrongly that His entire being, including his humanity > made from > DNA, had the power to create ex nihilo and that His body also > existed as God > from eternity past. Leading up to a point that I have pondered for a while. Was the human immaterial soul of Jesus the first created being , as St. Albert and St. Paul seemed to think? If not, there are theological problems. If so, there are still problems. Please respond, if you please, privately. Pax Christi, Robert