[geocentrism] Re: Indian satellite

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:31:20 +1000

Good one Allen..  Now what is the frequency of the Van allen radiation..  I 
just assumed it being close to X-rays. The magnetic field traps radiation from 
the sun .... I might go into it today after all my horses have run and lost me 
money..  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:02 AM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Indian satellite


        Phil,

        The fundimental issue and point to the discussion & comments on van 
allen is on the danger, not sources or kinds.....Will it kill you to pass 
through it or not?

        1. Some of Cosmic radiation energy does get trapped in the earth's 
magnetic field and radiation belt, for sure it does travel in the belt.... and 
does have a “not so good” affect on humans....as per Neville’s example...so the 
kind of radiation that is going to contribute to your death is ..well ..not so 
much the point as whether or not it will kill you period......
        2. In any case, it is the radiation intensity at the belts location 
regardless of where the sources of the radiation are coming from ...which must 
include all sources of radiation at that location regardless if it is a 
internal or external source of radiation...I did not say cosmic rays were 
sourced in the van allen belt ...I said...".in part the very radiation who's 
intensity at and through the belt is the very question" .......

        Will the aggregate radiation at the belt cause you .... "to be or not 
to be".......That is the question? 

        Allen 




                --- On Tue, 11/11/08, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:


                  From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Indian satellite
                  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                  Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 12:29 PM


                  Please explain Allen..  As far as I know Cosmic rays are not 
sourced in the Van allen belts, but are a different radiation  to those we are 
discussing..  Philip. 
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                    To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:22 AM
                    Subject: [geocentrism] Indian satellite


                          Particularly, since  the "ubiquitous" cosmic rays are 
in part the very radiation, who's intensity at and through the belt is the very 
question under consideration..:-D




                                --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Neville Jones 
<njones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


                                From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
                                Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Indian satellite
                                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:46 AM


                                Paul,

                                And your point?

                                Cosmic rays cause damage to electronic 
circuitry, so why did they not do any damage aboard Apollo? And we are exposed 
to cosmic rays here on terra firma, but I, for one, do not register flashes in 
my eyes.

                                Either way, dismissing the core argument with, 
'ah, they're just cosmic rays' skirts the issue.

                                Neville
                                www.realityreviewed.com




                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx
                                Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:41:46 +0000 (GMT)
                                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Indian satellite


                                Neville J
                                Space vehicle crews have been reporting these 
'flashes in their eyes' for quite a while. My most recent recollection of this 
phenomenon suggests that cosmic rays are thought to be the cause. And of course 
cosmic rays are ubiquitous.
                                Paul D





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                                From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
                                To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2008 11:30:25 PM
                                Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Indian satellite


                                Before Apollo, Dr. Van Allen was saying that a 
manned mission to the Moon was impossible, because of the radiation belts that 
are named after him. After Apollo, he changed his opinion and admitted being 
'wrong'.
                                This reversal is to be commended in an honest, 
truth-seeking scientist. However, his change of opinion was brought about by 
his belief that NASA would not lie about their 'achievements'. The only new 
'evidence' that he had to base his new opinion on was the word of NASA and the 
ex-military men who were being recruited by NASA to be astronauts.
                                Again, this is quite normal human behaviour - 
we each have an in-built tendency to believe that people would not lie to us.
                                Having said all that, you must realize, Paul, 
that Dr. Van Allen's change of opinion, as reported by Wikidpedia, etc., does 
not prove anything scientifically. Of far greater weight is the evidence of the 
Space Shuttle crew who stated that, at an altitude of 350 miles, they had 
strong flashes in their eyes, even with their lids closed.
                                Neville
                                www.realityreviewed.com


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