[geocentrism] Re: Dynamical Equivalence

Dear Steven,
Thanks on the dynamic Equivalence. That was the gist I had from it. Machs 
Principle, Im not so certain of.. It seems to justify both systems being true, 
whilst we know that is not so. 
Re rotation I am ok on that, as I thought you meant 24 hour orbit of the sun , 
as well as a 24 hr rotation of the earth.. But I do have difficulty with the 
need for an annual solar orbit.. I have always seen the seasons rather as 
resulting from the whole cosmos rocking and oscillating around the earth, 
annually, thus creating the same illusion which can be percieved from the HC  
position. 

In any case I am sticking to the absolute , The earth cannot be moved 
principle, and that the heavens are moving... we have the prophecy that the 
heavens shall indeed be moved in quite a spectacular way one day...

Philip. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven Jones 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:53 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Dynamical Equivalence 


  Dear Philip,

  Dynamical equivalence of two models concerning the universe is where, 
although the models behave differently and have different kinematic workings, 
because they supposedly predict the same observations though, it is not 
possible to determine which is true due to relativity. Most geocentrists argue 
that you cannot tell any observable difference between a heliocentric model and 
a geocentric one, thus they conform to dynamical equivalence which is 
essentially Mach's principle.

  As regards the Earth rotating and residing in the centre of the universe, 
then the sun must orbit the Earth once a year because, the Earth rotates once 
every twenty three hours and fifty six minutes west to east, which therefore 
creates the illusion that the stars are going round east to west in the same 
time. Finally the sun must be accounted for, since the sun goes around in 
twenty four hours the sun must orbit the Earth once a year, which is why in the 
heliocentric model the Earth must orbit the sun. This then also explains the 
seasons and the path of the sun through the ecliptic, which is essentially the 
path that the sun takes during the course of a year against the background of 
stars.

  Kind Regards,

  Steven Jones.



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