Dear Jack, I agree with you. And, following on from Robert's suggestion earlier, I would recommend that anyone who wishes to "debate" their beliefs sets up their own forum on which to do so. A good possibility for doing this is Yahoo Groups. A group is easy to set up, is free and is private (i.e., the general public cannot read the postings, as they can with freelists). I have my own forum for this, and general creationism, which is by invitation only, as you know. Yours in Christ, Neville. Jack Lewis <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Neville, Since nobody else has brought up their own denomination for discussion it would seem a good idea to stop the current discussion on Catholicism. I think it has done nothing for geocentrism and nothing for Christian enlightenment. Although interestingly your position regarding bread/flesh and wine/blood seems to fall in between what protestants and Catholics believe. However there are other non-denominational subjects that could get discussed such as, Satan - real or not, photographs - unbiblical or not, the Trinity, predestination etc. If they were to surface on this forum, I think it would put paid to GC. I think we should be careful in what we discuss. Perhaps one way would be for us all to set up a new e-mail 'account' called 'Biblical Discussions with everyone who is interested's e-mail address included. If someone wants to ask a non-geocentric question with a Biblical topic, they could post it to every one off list. This would allow those who wish to discuss it without side-tracking the others on the forum. Jack Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com