[geocentrism] Re: Current topics

Paul,
   
    I'm not your enemy here......I am trying to figure out how it is you don?t 
see the proof!?...However, in any case, since you seem to be the most 
"stubborn" of the HC folk on this forum & or to hold HC views...what does it 
take to show you your wrong?...If you bother to do the experiment within 15-20 
min exposures you will see that to suggest it would not make a distinction 
between the HC & GC views or in other words that you would only see the nightly 
axis of rotation is entirely untenable....In fact the effects that i have 
described for you as I have described for you has already been proven to 
demonstrated both axis the only difference is the real rotational effect is 
larger and takes longer to record....... I will attach all drawing here so as 
to keep it all coherent text is on the drawings... ..but the apparatus shown 
will show star trails on both axis even over a period of 20 min of rotation of 
both axis and at that even using the real Polaris so as to make moot
 the nightly affects of Polaris even on a 20 min exposure....? Same motion, 
same stars, same camera, same everything...?...there is only one possibility 
left ..the motion as describe by HC does not exist... 
  I cant get over the fact that you claim you see no reason to change your 
view.....!?..Because your view has been proven to be false..........That is 
why.....!?

   
  Hoping you will come to clarity...........
   
  Allen
  

Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
          
  Allen D
  A few days ago -- it seems like ages -- you posted several drawings 
accompanied by text explaining you position on certain aspects of star trails. 
You had obviously gone to some lengths to do so but your usual style -- words 
left out etc -- masked what you were trying to get across. I offered to help 
you clarify the matter -- to collaborate. This was a genuine attempt to help 
you and in the effort I might have learned something. At the time my 
understanding from your reply was that you were happy with that offer. Now we 
have your response (below) to my apology for being tardy in exercising that 
offer. I can only interpret this as being somewhat hostile.
  What does it take to be your friend?
  Paul D
  

  ----- Original Message ----
From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 5 November, 2007 3:33:39 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Current topics



      
    Paul, my comments in blue.... 
   
  Allen D -- I am not seeking to escape from my offer to collaborate in 
clarifying your illustrations but it does seem the need may have passed. What 
is your opinion?
   
  well if you understand the drawings then what are your arguments against the 
star trails proof?...i addressed all thoes issues that you keep bring up and i 
show that any reason against being able to see the annual motion would prevfent 
you from seeing the nightly motion. and Any valid reason that would allow you 
to see the nightly motion demands our ability to see the annual motion.....are 
you conceding....otherwise i missing something.....







  
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