Allen D A few days ago -- it seems like ages -- you posted several drawings accompanied by text explaining you position on certain aspects of star trails. You had obviously gone to some lengths to do so but your usual style -- words left out etc -- masked what you were trying to get across. I offered to help you clarify the matter -- to collaborate. This was a genuine attempt to help you and in the effort I might have learned something. At the time my understanding from your reply was that you were happy with that offer. Now we have your response (below) to my apology for being tardy in exercising that offer. I can only interpret this as being somewhat hostile. What does it take to be your friend? Paul D ----- Original Message ---- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, 5 November, 2007 3:33:39 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Current topics Paul, my comments in blue.... Allen D -- I am not seeking to escape from my offer to collaborate in clarifying your illustrations but it does seem the need may have passed. What is your opinion? well if you understand the drawings then what are your arguments against the star trails proof?...i addressed all thoes issues that you keep bring up and i show that any reason against being able to see the annual motion would prevfent you from seeing the nightly motion. and Any valid reason that would allow you to see the nightly motion demands our ability to see the annual motion.....are you conceding....otherwise i missing something..... National Bingo Night. Play along for the chance to win $10,000 every week. Download your gamecard now at Yahoo!7 TV. http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/national-bingo-night/