Paul, I have not forgotten you and my need to respond.. I could shoot you down in flames, but am reluctant for a time, as I think events will do the job for me pretty soon .. Meanwhile I invite your participation even if you only observe, of a more controversial subject coming next under the line A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT. immediately, because it came to me this being Sunday, to stir the pot. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Deema To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:08 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Conspiracy and global warming. Several. Neville J 1. How do you know that the political view is supported by "most of those qualified to express an opinion," rather than being the view broadcast by those who have access to the media? I don't know. There is no such thing as certainty. But on the balance of probabilities, it is the more reasonable position. 2. Do you accept that what the Sun does is a pretty big part of what nature does and that what we (individually or collectively) do is pretty insignificant in comparison? I accept that the Sun is the dominant factor. I also accept that what Man does is cumulative with the efforts of the Sun. Again, I accept that what we are doing is taking the Sun's energy accumulated in millions of years of vegetation deposition and releasing it in a few short years. It is as though the Sun shone more brightly during this period. Philip M Paul in essence you are saying just in case CO2 will cause global warming, we must pay the enormous cost of stopping or changing our life style.. But the CO2 fiasco was based on really bad science. It denies basic principles, ignored the sun among many other , and supported big business profit innitiatives .. Well we have to change our lifestyle sooner or later -- there are not the resources for all to live as we in Australia live, let alone the profligate life style of USA and those who would emulate them. It might as well be now. And in your opinion, which differs from so MANY others, we should just go on as we have done till now? I'll ask you a personal question here if I may -- what is your opinion on the suggestion that we have already '... filled the Earth' and should stop multiplying? oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Some of the more pessimistic assessments of global warming (those involving methane hydrates (see ie http://www.hydrogen.co.uk/h2_now/journal/articles/3_Methane.htm)) suggest the possible extinction of humanity among other species. Are you prepared to stand before the Judgement Seat and plead that you were so sure of yourself that you were prepared for selfish reasons to take the risk of this extinction? Or that you acted as you thought was right in opposing those more prudent regardless of the possible penalties? oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Paul D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Search 1000's of available singles in your area at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started.