My experiments will moot those issues and i will show you exactly how..when as i have time....... ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:29:34 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Celestial poles Allen, The problem for us, as I see it, is that the camera must be bolted to the floor, such that we are detecting only the supposed motion of the earth. But then, with the heliocentrists' megadistances to everything, each 24-hour snapshot is just one of the 23h 56m 4s snapshots. And, if we move the camera, then we have influenced the picture. Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com -----Original Message----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:44:48 -0800 (PST) No, but im deferring any other comments on the celestial poles until i can get some experiments done. I'm currently not able to do that and I'm scheduled for a extended absence out of country on the 31st of this month and I will not be back until the 25th of February. I will not be doing alot/any with email during this period. Between now and then I will read as i have time but will not be active unless the subject just burns too much for me to let go at the moment....LOL. I think this would be a great time for Regner/ others to discuss all those other Geocentric issues he expressed so much interest in. Happy hunting everyone..... :-) Allen Daves ----- Original Message ---- From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:44:15 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Celestial poles Allen, Have we reached agreement on the celestial poles idea? Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com Free Online Photosharing - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more!