[geocentrism] Re: Celestial Poles ..part 2
- From: Regner Trampedach <art@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:46:36 +1100
Allen,
Ad.1) "The two motions nightly and annual would be the same,
...because they take place in the same plane"
* The fact that the annual translational orbit takes place in the
ecliptic plane, only affects the parallactic ellipses.
* What you call the annual motion, still is only the nightly
rotation seen at a progressing phase
360°/365.25days = about 1° per day or 4 minutes further per day.
Ad.2) "It is nothing more then tilting your head/ camera while rotating
(radial orientation) around a given axis."
* I assume you mean the "given axis" axis to be the red axis, i.e.,
the ecliptic axis.
* In that case, you are not correct, because that motion is NOT a
ROTATION, but a TRANSLATION along a (nearly) circular path - the
Earth's orbit.
* If it was a rotation, your camera would point 47° away from Polaris
half a year from when it does point to Polaris.
This is not the case, as we do agree on.
- Regner
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Quoting Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Thanks Ja,
>
> Exactly ... your diagram shows
>
> 1. BLUE: A rotation around the blue axis nightly motions plus a snapshot at
> 24 hour intervals (radial orientation) around the annual orbit that sits on
> the same angle wrt CP as the nightly rotation does. The two motions nightly
> and annual would be the same, (circular motion around a common axis) because
> they take place in the same plane...This is the only way to make those two
> motions appear to exist in the same plane!
>
> 2 RED: The red axis is nothing more then a angled view of rotation around
> the annual ecliptic axis. It is nothing more then tilting your head/ camera
> while rotating (radial orientation) around a given axis. It would not make
> the nightly motion of the blue plus the rotation around red axis look even
> remotely like what you would observe. Those motions do not take place in the
> same plane nor would they appear too!
> The blue would only show a "circular sander" motion, where the red would
> show a "orbital sander" motion.(circular motion + a orbit)
>
> Those two configurations will never produce the same or indistinguishably
> observable effects. The red is HC. .........HC folk want everyone to believe
> that the red is the mechanical configuration/action, but the net effect of
> the blue is what the red would indistinguishably show.!?
>
>
>
> j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Allen,
>
> I attached the wrong drawing before..... don't fool with the other emails
> drawing, it is too big. Use this one.
>
> JA
>
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