Only if you access it from the top. I just read that they have pulled everything out of the Steak & Shake at the bottom of the hill though, so you might need to keep an eye on it. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Diederich To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Meramec flooding I'm guessing Buder Upper is safe.