- Jason,Yes, we have talked with them and it's a done deal. They only have 2 requirements for us; no ammo boxes and no PVC containers. Otherwise we are free to basically do whatever we want in their parks. No permits are required, no time limits, etc. As far as metal containers, tool boxes or any other type or shape is allowed, just not the ammo boxes. The county park rangers work directly with us and know lots of us, so we have a good relationship in the parks and they are aware of caches that are hidden. So no worry to try to hide the fact you are caching.
Several years ago a maintenance worker discovered a large PVC container that was part of a multi cache hidden in some undergrowth. Following procedures, a 300 foot area was closed off and reported it to the rangers. As it was, she recognized the container as a cache (she caches herself) and said everything was safe and not worry. That is what prompted the banning of PVC pipes in the county parks. At that time several PVC bombs had been detonated in trash cans and rest rooms.
Again, the ammo box and PVC rules only apply to the St. Louis County parks. Local city parks, state parks, Conservation areas, etc all have their own set of rules, which in some cases are "no rules".
Rich (RGS)----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Murray" <jemurray@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Meramec flooding
- I am probably beating a dead horse, but has anyone tried to work with St. Louis county to reverse this issue. Everyone of my ammo cans has been painted flat brown with either geocaching stickers or a stenciled geocaching logo on the side. Lock'n'locks are good, but I am still a fan of the can. Especially if I need to chain it to a tree where it could possibly be under water. --Jason (aka jason.murray) On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Bromley <bromley@xxxxxxx> wrote:There are still places that allow Ammo cans but for the most part, I think SLAGA members tend to ignore them because of the questions on where they areallowed and where they aren't allowed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Spurr To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Meramec flooding Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:16:28 -0700 (PDT) That explains the lack of ammo cans out here. Boy thought ya'll hadsomething against them. They are the container of choice in VA followed by a good lock-n-lock. As long as the ammo can has no military markings on it,they can be used. Cindy Want to learn about geocaching in Hampton Roads? Visit http://www.vageocachers.org Want to learn about geocaching in St. Louis? Visit http://www.geostl.com/SLAGAPostNuke/index.php ----- Original Message ---- From: Sarah Chisholm To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 12:00:17 PM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Meramec floodingAlso, even if ammo cans were not forbidden, most of the areas where I placedmy caches do not support a container that large. Sarah :-) ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Bromley To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:46:18 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Meramec flooding Jason, Ammo cans are wonderful but are forbidden in the St. Louis County Parks.They are a "no no" and can't be used. Neither can PVC pipe. I've done most of the caches along the Merricac and honestly don't remember what containersthey were but I'd guess they are "Tupperware" like for the most part. Welcome to the area. If you haven't found the SLAGA (St. Louis Area Geocachers Association) web page yet, you can find us at: www.geostl.comWe have several events coming up in the next month or so. You are welcometo join us. Steve Bromley aka javapgmr, President SLAGA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Murray" To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Meramec flooding Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:21:01 -0500 >- >When I placed caches in areas that had the potential to >flood. I would make containers that would withstand the >floods. The container of choice was an ammo can with a >good seal. The container was then chained to a solid >object. If you are going to disable a cache, this would be >a good opportunity to consider changing your containers to >something that makes more sense for this area. For all the >people disabling caches I am curious to hear what type of >container you are using. > >I still see too many people placing tupperware type >containers. > >Thoughts? > >-- >Jason E. Murray >jemurray@xxxxxxxxx > http://www.zweck.net/ > >On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, GC-RGS >>wrote: >> >> For anyone with caches along the Meramec river, such as >> Marshall road in Kirkwood and Valley Park, Al Foster >> trail in Glencoe, Lower Meramec County Park in south >county, may want to temporarily disable their caches and > > check on them again once the water goes down. I'm sure >> many will be missing or the logs unsignable (if that's a >>word). >> Rich >> >> > > > > > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including >unsubscribing from this > list, click ----- > > //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived > http://tinyurl.com/87cqw Steve Steve-- Jason E. Murray jemurray@xxxxxxxxx http://www.zweck.net/ . **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocachingMissouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw
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