[GeoStL] Re: Caching in National Parks!
- From: Mike Lusicic <lusicic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:32:50 -0500
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Gee wiz, maybe the another answer is for the park to start sponsoring
their own caches like Crestwood did. Then they can toot their own
whistle wherever they want. The two together would probably be a nice
combo, and maybe a way to perhaps get some geocachers in there to maybe
set them up for the park service, and then they can maintain it as just
another part of the park facility. It could start up a nice relationship
that may help the two sides appreciate each other and maybe be better
for the encounter.
Glenn wrote:
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>Well, if the geological people say that this thing is a really cool thing,
>I cant really say otherwise. I dont know a thing about rocks except that
>they were fun to put inside of snowballs.
>
>They think they have a lot to offer and would like to be able to show the
>stuff to visitors. With the ban on hard (real) caches by the NPS that
>hasn't been able to happen with the triditional cache type and with the
>reluctance of the reviewers to start listing every VC that someone claims
>to be a cool rock, (or whatever) the geology folks wants to OK them which
>is OK with the gc.com reviewers.
>
>It could be a 2 edged sword.
>
>It will be nice to get some bonified neat attractions in the NPS. Thats is
>good.
>
>Other parks could (and have) discovered that the virtual caches are a
>dandy "non-littering" way to have geocaching in the parks and will (and
>some parks have) banned all but virtual caches in their parks. The result
>is that there will be no geocaches in their parks. That is not a good thing.
>
>glenn
>
>
>At 10:04 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:
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>>So this is more about the gc.com guys than it is about actually being
>>able to walk around in a national park with a GPSr in your hand. So an
>>expert saying fossils in rocks are cool trumps the gc.com guy who
>>doesn't think much about fossils in rocks, or at least provides dry
>>commentary (at a 14 year old level) on why it is there. OK. I get the
>>picture.
>>
>>Glenn wrote:
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>>>Basically it is a virtual cache that will be approved by the geology
>>>guys. GC.com reviewers will not have anything to do with them.
>>>
>>>If you just set up a virtual cache now to go look at some rocks, I am
>>>pretty sure that the evil reviewers will mention something like "Not enough
>>>wow" or "what is so special about a fossil in a rock?" or something like
>>>that. They are a nasty lot.
>>>
>>>Since the real deal geology guys are looking at these, I am thinking that
>>>the likelyhood of getting to see something that is actually pretty neat
>>>would be pretty high. Or so they are hoping.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>At 09:25 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Lusicic wrote:
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>>>>OK, being a new guy, I just have to ask this: What does this really give
>>>>you? It seems to me that if you are interesting formations, there is
>>>>nothing that stops anyone from publishing such interesting information
>>>>and giving the coordinates of the location so you can go see for
>>>>yourself. Is this banned in national parks now? If you cannot leave
>>>>anything according to this rule, then I just don't see what it adds
>>>>other than the fact you have to go through more paperwork than if you
>>>>didn't call it a virtual geocache! So what am I missing? Seems that
>>>>"EarthCache" is just a name and bureaucratic hoops to do what is already
>>>>legal in a national park, unless the spot in question was not already
>>>>open to the public.
>>>>
>>>>Glenn wrote:
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>>>>>-
>>>>>They have been working on this one for a while. When I first heard of this
>>>>>I thought of Know Future right off the bat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>From what I gatehr, getting one of these listed will not be a slam dunk,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>easy deal tho.
>>>>>
>>>>>glenn
>>>>>
>>>>>At 08:06 AM 10/6/2004, Mike Griffin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>Caches will be allowed in National Parks if they can meet these
>>>>>>guidelines...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.geosociety.org/EarthCache/guidelines.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Looks like Jeremy at GC.COM is on board with this as there is a new
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>icon for
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>earthcaches. All you professional and amateur geologists, time to get
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>busy!
>>
>>
>>>>>>Mike
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