On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 04:43 -0400, Grant Hallman wrote:
> Hi again, and thanks to all who replied. What i know now:
>
> I have SlySoft's "AnyDVD" product, which lets me copy copy-protected DVDs.
> (I use it because i live far from the video store, so i rent 6 movies at a
> time, watch one and copy the other 5, and return them all the next day,
> watch them when i get a chance.) Most of them aren't worth the $2 blank
> DVD. BTW, anyone know why a 4.7 Gb blank can't hold 120 minutes of
video? I
> hafta use double-layer blanks to hold a typical movie.
>
> Howsomever, AnyDVD only strips the copyright bit, thus allowing
> good-citizen Nero to make a copy, it doesn't (AFAICT) change the copy
> process, so i still get a non-playable copy.
>
> According to gamecopyworld, AoE II uses "SafeDisc", but no further help.
> Now what? I'd really prefer to copy the media rather than eliminate it via
> HD, i think what i need is a bit-for-bit, sector-for-sector,
> trach-for-track copy utility. I'm surprised they're hard to find.
>
> As to these:
> http://torrentspy.com/ or http://www.demonoid.com +
http://www.utorrent.com/
>
> Huh? The first site needs a password, the other two are 404'd... ?
Tools like the ones you describe are AFAIK illegal under the US DMCA.
Any tool that is intended to defeat *any* kind of copy protection is
illegal under the DMCA and the penalties are sever.
Discussions of tools for defeating copy protection can be treated as
conspiracy to violate the DMCA.
IIRC the punisment for violating the DMCA includes a USD 250,000 fine
for each act in violation of the DMCA.
So... maybe you can understand why those tools are hard to get. And,
maybe you can understand why people in the US may be reluctant to help
you on this subject.
I consider the DMCA to be a direct violation of the right to free
speech. Unfortunately, copyright is written into the original US
Constitution, while free speech was added as an amendment. That makes it
very hard to challenge the DMCA in court in the US.
Bob Pendleton
Bob Pendleton
>
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> Station) make a pass tonight, brighter than Venus, popped out of Earth's
> shadow right overhead at 3:36:35 and swept off to the NW. Look here for
> details, register your long/lat and get 10-day notice of passes visible in
> your area:
>
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>
> It's really well done IMO.
>
> cheers - grant
>
> At 03:21 PM 7/18/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> >If you have the original discs, you can use GameJackal. It creates a
> >profile while you play the game. All you have to do from then on is keep
> >a copy of the map created with the profile key for your install, and you
> >shouldn't need the original media again. This has been the case with my
> >BattleField 2142, BattleField 2, and Call of Duty 2 games.
> >Again.. it does require that you have the original media.
> >
> >There's another alternative for you. You can find it at www.slysoft.com
> >for the cost of $29.99.
> >
> >Jake Briggs wrote:
> >>A problem with the alcohol 120 solution is that you /may/ need to use
drm
> >>emulation - if you copy a game that uses starforce (i think that is what
> >>its called) using alcohol 120, then you'll need to use alcohol 120's
> >>starforce emulation.
> >>
> >>This probably won't work until 2019 :D
> >>
> >>On the other hand, maybe the copy protection is weak and alcohol will
> >>copy it properly....
> >>
> >>Bradley Mclain wrote:
> >>>I don't know if it'll work specifically for Age of Empires but a
similar
> >>>solution to the one posted above is Alcohol 120%. This allows you to
> >>>copy your CD to your hard drive as an image and run it in a Virtual
> >>>Drive, therefore you shall never need to use the CD again. I do this
> >>>with a lot of my CD's to preserve the originals, the only game/DVD I
> >>>have come across so far that will not work properly is Rome: Total War,
> >>>Gold Edition.
> >>>
> >>>On 7/18/07, *Sam Nova* <sam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>><mailto:sam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I would much rather suggest Virtual Drive. They do support Age of
> >>> Empires III and 2 and the gold edition.. So might be worth to check
> >>> http://www.farstone.com/software/virtualdrive.htm
> >>> <http://www.farstone.com/software/virtualdrive.htm>
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy,
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >>> ---------------------------------------
> >>> Blog: http://www.SamuelNova.com
> >>> Games Portal: http://www.NovaCastle.com <http://www.NovaCastle.com>
> >>>
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> <mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > [mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> <mailto:gameprogrammer-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Jake
Briggs
> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:59 PM
> >>> > To: gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> <mailto:gameprogrammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Subject: [gameprogrammer] Re: Enough, already!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > http://torrentspy.com/ or http://www.demonoid.com +
> >>> > http://www.utorrent.com/
> >>> >
> >>> > Let someone else do the hard work for you.... I know it sucks
> >>> > to have to
> >>> > resort to this kind of activity, but that is just how it is :(
> >>> >
> >>> > Grant Hallman wrote:
> >>> > > Hi folks:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I've been lurking the last while for a variety of personal
> >>> > RL reasons,
> >>> > > but Bob may remember me. I thought someone here might be
> >>> > able to help
> >>> > > an old-timer ;) with a problem i'm having with M$
> >>> > anti-piracy vs media
> >>> > > backup.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I confess up front, i'm seriously addicted to Age of Empires,
> >>> > > developed by Ensemble and sold by Microsoft. And i
understand big
> >>> > > companies' concerns that people don't copy their games and hand
> >>> > > freebies out to their friends. But i am pi$$ed that i cannot
> >>> make a
> >>> > > working backup of the software i paid for and have the
> >>> > legal right to
> >>> > > use.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Awhile back, my game CD started showing a hairline crack
off the
> >>> > > center spindle. The crack got longer, then another one
> >>> > started on the
> >>> > > other side, and finally the game went dead. Microsoft's
answer was
> >>> > > "buy another game". My position is that i already bought
> >>> > and paid for
> >>> > > the dang game and it's their media that failed, and their
> >>> paranoia
> >>> > > that kept me from making a playable backup, so a non-evil
company
> >>> > > would at a minimum offer to exchange a broken media for a
working
> >>> > > replacement. Not M$, unfortunately.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > So now i've paid twice for this game, and i /still/ can't
make a
> >>> > > playable backup, and i wonder whether anyone here knows how
to get
> >>> > > around their fool copy protection? Because i'm still gonna
> >>> > be playing
> >>> > > it in 2019, and it will eventually go out of stock, and i'm
> >>> > not giving
> >>> > > anything away or doing anything illegal, and dammit i have
> >>> > the right
> >>> > > to back up my own media.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Now i've heard lots of theories, and i've tried CloneCD,
> >>> > and i'm only
> >>> > > looking for advice from people who AKS (Actually Know
> >>> > Something), like
> >>> > > how to copy the dang thing, and off-list reply is fine if we
> >>> don't
> >>> > > want a bunch of high-school kids being naughty (like they'd
> >>> > need help
> >>> > > from us anyway). So if u feel like u can trust me that
you're not
> >>> > > being accessory to a felony and i just want a backup for my
> >>> > own use,
> >>> > > and you AKS, please reply, on or off list as u see fit.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > TIA for any assistance - grant
> >>> > >
> >>> > > PS: It's Age of Empires II, Conqueror's Expansion. AoE III
> >>> will only
> >>>
> >>> > > play on XP, and i won't accept the EULA for that piece
> >>> > of... software.
> >>> > > I run W2000, and have Nero, CloneCD and AnyDVD, all of
which i use
> >>> > > legally.
>
>
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