[frgeek-michiana] Re: LTSP terminal or lab workstation?

  • From: Richard Zimmerman <csxt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: frgeek-michiana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:28:04 -0500

Well, there are two ways to go with this... Your suggesting putting a full install on each netbook thus meaning we do not need an LTSP server. We just use any ol regular server.


If were talking net booting them via pxe, then that's a BIOS issue on the netbook and we then need to use an LTSP Server.

That in itself raises a question... Can we boot an ARM kernel into a netbook but run from an LTSP server? It seems to me since under LTSP, the client is mounted at the file system level and basically a remote terminal so it should work.

** BUT **

If you want local applications, sounds, or the ability to save locally (usb disk) you are then looking at a unified platform (another wards it's all got to be the same under the hood cpu wise).

Richard


Tom Brown wrote:
Oops, didn't see the ARM search link on the Debian LTSP packages page.
Vector doesn't support ARM. If Menq, the manufacturer, up scales to the Atom
processor, we're good to go. If it doesn't, we may need to wait for an
affordable ($100 -$150) netbook which uses the Atom processor.

Tom




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Subject: [frgeek-michiana] Re: LTSP terminal or lab workstation?

Tom Brown wrote:
I'm hoping the E790 model sells well and the manufacturer tries a 10" screen, 90+% keyboard and Atom processor, at a low price point. Unless Debian supports both the ARM processor and LTSP (no evidence of that yet), or the manufacturer uses the Atom, we'll be out of luck.

http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/

Quick glance... Debian does support ARM. We need to know that version of ARM the E790 uses...


http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ltsp
Tom


You do not use Debian packages (Do they have Debian packages for LTSP?). You use the generic LTSP packages. I have the old version 4.2 of LTSP which works just fine. No reason for a newer one. I'll need to read up to see if it's worth a version change.

Although, you would want LTSP running on Vector Linux anyhow since that is what we give out w/ the Freeboxes... It's already been done w/ the Warehouse server.

Richard




Mike Cook wrote:
That particular unit uses a 533MHz, ARM9 based, Samsung S3C2450, RISC processor. I'm not sure how well it would be supported in LTSP, definitely not a standard kernel. It comes with WindowsCE and they say it will run Android. Sounds like it could be cool though if you ditch the WinCE which isn't fully ARM compatible. As far as I can tell there are no US suppliers for any MenQ products and it looks like MenQ is selling to oem's, not consumers, so the $80 price might be an oem price rather than a consumer price. The 7" screen might be a problem for us blind-as-a-bat types too. There are a number of inexpensive ARM based netbooks either planned or in pre-production now and they promise adequate performance , long battery life, and excellent Linux compatibility. Not a gaming or compiling environment but good for general purpose web surfing and word processing. Hopefully some of these systems might someday become available in the US.

Mike

Tom Brown wrote:
EasyPC E790, $80 (yes, eighty USD)


http://www.techgadgets.in/misc-gadgets/2009/16/menq-presents-easypc-e790-min

i-pc/

Tom


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