Robert Balmer says: "The liquid volume changes frequently going into the vessel and we use a lime feeder to correct the pH. " I am assuming this is the tough part of the problem at this point. We have one very tough to control loop that adjusts the pH of water immediately after our water softeners. The cationic softeners are regenerated by acid. Right after switching from an old cell to a recently regenerated one, the residual acid in the resin beads plays havoc with the almost completely unbuffered water. To make it tougher to deal with, the water demand can change from 900 gpm to 3200 gpm in a matter of seconds, as this water supplies the entire refinery. We made the loop as "feed forward" as possible. Instead of adding base to control the pH, we add the chemical based on a ratio of chemical flow to the water flow. The pH loop determines the ratio. The flow control loop is tuned to give near a immediate response. The chemical flow is very small and this part of the loop is now quite successful. It is not a perfect solution, but it solved the problem of response time to rapid flow changes in the main stream. The next part of our problem is that we have a set point close to the steep part of the adjustment curve. To solve that part is going to require changes to the hardware or the process and is outside of the control loop. I hope this helps. Chuck Jones Automation Technologist Tate & Lyle Lafayette Plant ******************************************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. Please note that we reserve the right to monitor and read any emails sent and received by the Company in accordance with and to the extent permitted by applicable legal rules. Tate & Lyle PLC, registered in England: number 76535. Registered office: Tate & Lyle PLC, Sugar Quay, Lower Thames Street, London EC3R 6DQ. Tate & Lyle Industries Limited registered in England:number 699090. Registered office: Tate & Lyle Industries Limited, Sugar Quay, Lower Thames Street, London EC3R 6DQ ********************************************************************************************************* _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave