"We made the loop as "feed forward" as possible. Instead of adding base to control the pH, we add the chemical based on a ratio of chemical flow to the water flow. The pH loop determines the ratio. The flow control loop is tuned to give near a immediate response. The chemical flow is very small and this part of the loop is now quite successful. It is not a perfect solution, but it solved the problem of response time to rapid flow changes in the main stream." I would implement the above like "Chuck" did and maybe make the PIDA a non-linear controller with a high gain once you get out side the Control Zone. We use this scheme on all our pH Loop Controls. Seems to work quite well for most Applications we have. Good luck This electronic message contains information from NewPage Corporation or subsidiary companies, which may be confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. The information is intended to be used solely by the recipient(s) named. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this transmission or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify NewPage immediately at postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave